Choosing a NOOB in 2022: does it still make sense?

[derjenigewelcher]

For me, its 100% like you say.
pick a v10 and its also top!

 

[danielesanta]

Thanks
if i buy a zf hulk with vr3135 can i in future replace 3135 with swiss gen eta movement? Or not?

 

[danielesanta]

For me, its 100% like you say.
pick a v10 and its also top!

thanks

in a v10 or v11 noob can i put a swiss eta gen?
i dont find in a trusted dealer a noob v12...

 

[StreetFighter]

Avoid the 2836 movement in a Sub, the crown position on the case is set too low (because the movement is a different size/depth to a 3135) and that closes up the crown guards so it looks fake before you start.

 

[derjenigewelcher]

thanks

in a v10 or v11 noob can i put a swiss eta gen?
i dont find in a trusted dealer a noob v12...

Yes as long it is made for a swiss ETA.

Noob v12 you can put in vr or vs superclone as alternative:

https://trustytimewatch88.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_7&products_id=22733
https://trustytimewatch88.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_7&products_id=22732

 

[danielesanta]

Yes as long it is made for a swiss ETA.

Noob v12 you can put in vr or vs superclone as alternative:

https://trustytimewatch88.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_7&products_id=22733
https://trustytimewatch88.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_7&products_id=22732

thanks, these noob v12 look excellent

my budget was 300 euro, thanks to you i realized that it is better to increase it and i got to about 400 with factory zf

although i am a bit afraid of the low reliability of the vr3135

these you propose me though are almost at 500 euros!!!

 

[danielesanta]

Avoid the 2836 movement in a Sub, the crown position on the case is set too low (because the movement is a different size/depth to a 3135) and that closes up the crown guards so it looks fake before you start.

you are right though

- I'm not looking for a perfect replica, I'll settle for a good replica

- I am a little afraid of vr3135, years ago it was unreliable...today?

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Vr3135 reliable.

v11 is not 500.-

i dont tell everything 20 times. Id you want a cheapie go for noob v8s.

or else dghate

 

[danielesanta]

Vr3135 reliable.

v11 is not 500.-

i dont tell everything 20 times. Id you want a cheapie go for noob v8s.

or else dghate

500...i mean...total price with shipping

ill buy or v10/v11 or zf

 

[ziggycharly]

The answer is no. Also a swiss ETA is pointless. Just get ZF and if movement dies, buy a new VR3135

 

[danielesanta]

The answer is no. Also a swiss ETA is pointless. Just get ZF and if movement dies, buy a new VR3135

so...I thought eta swiss (not asian, swiss gen) was a very good movement

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Sheesh. tons of members, tons of different ideas about a good watch. so just figure out whats good for you.

 

[SS72]

so...I thought eta swiss (not asian, swiss gen) was a very good movement

A genuine ETA is a good movement, if you can get one with all gen parts. Most will be rebuilt using secondhand parts nowadays. The Sellita movement is today's version of the ETA, which is just as good, based on what I've heard and read.

ETA being pointless is mostly true if you want to franken your watch down the track with gen Rolex or VR/VS movements and some parts.

 

[Slugger]

you are right though

- I'm not looking for a perfect replica, I'll settle for a good replica

- I am a little afraid of vr3135, years ago it was unreliable...today?

I think the advice you need has been given. Good luck with your first purchase.

 

[danielesanta]

A genuine ETA is a good movement, if you can get one with all gen parts. Most will be rebuilt using secondhand parts nowadays. The Sellita movement is today's version of the ETA, which is just as good, based on what I've heard and read.

ETA being pointless is mostly true if you want to franken your watch down the track with gen Rolex or VR/VS movements and some parts.

ok thanks

 

[danielesanta]

The answer is no. Also a swiss ETA is pointless. Just get ZF and if movement dies, buy a new VR3135

ok
but if vr3135, can i replace it with a sellita?

 

[heska]

Noob parts inventory are scattered after they got raided and closed permanently.

The reason I don’t like Noobs is because of the double line rehauts, the letters are not engraved so as to look like there is a ‘fill’. They look like outlines.

I would say the VR3135s are more reliable than the chinese ETAs particularly with the keyless works where the hack or the sliding pinion doesn’t jump out of the . They have tighter tolerances than Dandong made VS3135 although the platinum plating is not as uniform, hence they feel a bit rough.

I used a VR3135 main plate and transferred everything from my VS3135 with a few gen bridges for my ZF Hulk and its been ticking +1 sec per day for 2 years now

Double line rehaut was standard for early sub c. I personally prefer this style, mostly because it was better repped than the actual « filled » style. But this would be the only advantage for choosing a noob now.

From my experience the VS have a tighter tolerance than VR. I had trouble with gen auto wind assembly on a vr for example. Plus date setting/hour setting/hand wind is nearly as fluid and precise as gen