calling all dssd experts to evaluate.

[mkalbaker]

here ya go

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/product-offering-noobfactory-dssd-55076

My god bk dssd is the best, second to non. thumbs up. now only if that pearl can be replaced.

 

[watch.aholic]

My god bk dssd is the best, second to non. thumbs up. now only if that pearl can be replaced.

I am wondering that since virtually everyone on the board speaks so highly of BK when it comes to any talk of a Sub or DSSD, why the issue of the pearl is still unresolved? I read that BK used to do a pearl job too but apparently he doesn't undertake it any more. Please correct me if I am wrong on this. I mean it's just a bit dissuading when you know that you are buying a rep that is almost perfect except that silly pearl is going to be a dead giveaway.

unfortunately i dont think you will ever find a rep that is 100%, you have to keep in mind that the conditions in the factories where these watches are made arent the ideal places for such types of work to be done. there will always be something wrong or something slightly out of place from any of these pieces. its just part of the game. your best bet is to find a dealer whom you feel comfortable dealing with and who will provide you with as much QC as possible to minimize the ultimate let down, and that would be you buying a watch that you wouldnt feel comfortable wearing..

just my $0.02

I know mate....I am beginning to realize that gunning for 100% in every pursuit of mine is something I shouldn't do.....It's surely a mistake of mine to expect a rep to be as good as a gen.......I'd find a way to like these anyhow....after all they just cost 5% of the cost of the gen....the cost/pleasure ratio of a rep is mind boggling.....

 

[mkalbaker]

i cant agree more with the pearl issue. The watch eden one got my attension is the fact that the pearl issue is some what addressed. but then again what about the rest?

 

[nikomega]

i cant agree more with the pearl issue. The watch eden one got my attension is the fact that the pearl issue is some what addressed. but then again what about the rest?

The Watch-Eden DSSD-dial has the better hour-markers. And in my opinion the dial of a rep is the most important part when it comes to comparison with the gen. My DSSD (from Watchinternational) is very accurate and solid (lost or gains hardly a second in two days) and looks as good as brandnew after 10 months of permanent usage. But when i compare it with the gen in the ADs shop window i can clearly see the difference from a 2 meters distance (because of the hour-markers). I just agree with Thinksbach.

The Watch-Eden ceramic-bezel looks bad (at least in that picture) - numbers appear too thin and too "grey". Date-wheel looks good. Movement isn`t recommendable as already mentioned.

Conclusion: The BKs DSSD needs a better dial (like that on the WatchEdens DSSD)
If anyone knows where such a compatible dial is available please tell me!!!

 

[frigpig]

The pearls doesn't look that good IMO. It is not raised like the Gen. Aswell the ring lock on this rep is engraved and filled with paint. The Gen is laser eched. There are better reps of the DSSD out there for less scratch, but it's up to you.

 

[mkalbaker]

ok guys i am looking into trevor ones and i have another thread for it. Personally i dont want to buy this because no one has bought it yet and he is asking for alot $407. just thought thaty there was something special about it. Thank you all for the kind and nice advice.

 

[watchdogg]

If you are going to spend +$400 get BK's and be done with it. Plus, it will be a lot easier to sell if you decide this big and bulky watch is not your style. Just my two cents.

 

[bigdeal]

Personally, I like the pearl in the watcheden pics. Somebody please buy one and post pics...

 

[DarthAlex]

The pearl on BK's is an easy mod. Shave it down just below the rim and add a small drop of clear epoxy. It makes a world of difference. Same goes for the ceramic sub.

 

[mkalbaker]

does bk have a new updated one? i swear i saw a thread long time back saying that he made a new one with a spot on pearl. i think the thread is in repgeek but im not sure.

 

[ThinkBachs]

This version is wrong on so many levels. The HEV-dial markers are mismatched, not to mention that the HEV is just wrong for any model. The bezel engraving sucks, RING LOCK is misaligned and the engraving is a little too deep/thick. The hands are flat, Vs having a curve to them.

$408 is insanity for this watch....

 

[mkalbaker]

This version is wrong on so many levels. The HEV-dial markers are mismatched, not to mention that the HEV is just wrong for any model. The bezel engraving sucks, RING LOCK is misaligned and the engraving is a little too deep/thick. The hands are flat, Vs having a curve to them.

$408 is insanity for this watch....

ok then what do you think of these two:
http://puretimewatch.com/product/se...psea-116600-11-a3135-best-edition-correct-10/

or:http://puretimewatch.com/product/sea-dweller-deepsea-116600-v6-a2836/

 

[ThinkBachs]

I goofed up- I like the V6 version better.

 

[mkalbaker]

I started checking out the V6 but the page hung and now all I get is a blank page... From what I could see, it sure seems like a much better deal than the second link. I'll try it again later.

you mean the correct 10 first link is better than the v6 second link?
i have spoken to puretime and told them why cant they speak with the manufacturer and produce an excellent watch, i even sent him links of your review and some pearl mods and told him that he has to be serious when talking with the manufacturer to reflect consumer needs.

 

[ThinkBachs]

...told him that he has to be serious when talking with the manufacturer to reflect consumer needs.

They know this already you ding dong!

OK, here we go:

This version: http://puretimewatch.com/product/sea-dweller-deepsea-116600-v6-a2836/

Sea-Dweller DEEPSEA 116600 V6 A2836

Size: 43mm x 18mm Movement: Asian 2836-2 25J automatic movement at 28800vph Functions: hours, minutes, seconds and date Case: 316L stainless steel case with titanium alloy caseback Crystal: super thick (same as gen) sapphire crystal Dial: black dial with correct details and blue lume Bezel: uni-directional rotatable black Cerachrom (real ceramic) bezel Strap: steel bracelet Clasp: new Glidelock clasp Water resistance: >50 Meters Remark: Replicated from a genuine as sample. Latest Edition.

• great endlinks
• great dial
• date window correct
• nice markers all around
• nice bezel insert
• very nice RING LOCK engraving
• date font looks decent
  

• pearl location too low

• etched crown on the crystal

• nice even lume
• correct color

• weak pearl lume

• good fit of the endlinks to the case
• bezel insert sits nice

• seems like the bezel cuts could be a little sharper, but this is high magnification so it really isn't a big deal

• nice inner engraving

• hands are flat- not many ever come with the proper curved version (easy fix if you decide to replace them)

• endlinks over-compensated just like the gen

• good HEV, matches the dial markings as it should

• nice spring bar cutouts
• nice endlink cutouts

• nice crown on the Glidelock
• excellent finger-nail groove just below it! Sooooo many rep Glidelocks fail on this point- even BK's. They're either too wide or almost always over polished with no sharp edge

[BLINK]Excellent find! [/BLINK]

 

[INeedaWatch2]

Becareful going by the pictures on these sites, they sometimes use pictures of the GEN watch, and may explain why the pearl looks so good on the watcheden site....I am not saying they do, but some sites do use gen pics. When the watch arrives to you, its completely different than the pic or even that is a one off and has been sold and yours still may be different. It all depends on how they do QC an if the drop ship. I personally would go with BK ( and I did) due to it not being much more than the one your looking at, and the QC is guarranteed, BK will make sure the watch is top notch before sending it out....

 

[ThinkBachs]

Becareful going by the pictures on these sites, they sometimes use pictures of the GEN watch, and may explain why the pearl looks so good on the watcheden site....I am not saying they do, but some sites do use gen pics. When the watch arrives to you, its completely different than the pic or even that is a one off and has been sold and yours still may be different. It all depends on how they do QC an if the drop ship. I personally would go with BK ( and I did) due to it not being much more than the one your looking at, and the QC is guarranteed, BK will make sure the watch is top notch before sending it out....

Oh you silly boy! These are trusted dealers, and the photos they use are of the actual watch and not a gen. I have NEVER seen or read any accusations that our trusted dealers use gen photos to "trick" customers. I have utter complete confidence that Puretime is using actual photos of the actual watch. I'll be purchasing this version to provide a hands on review to support the one above using Puretime's images.

I know BK has a lot of fans, but I can guarantee that this will be well worth purchasing. As a side note, any rep should have a qualified watchsmith go over it to ensure that all is well. I use Katt and it should cost an extra $40ish to do this.

On this I would:

• Replace the insert with a Trevor Version: $35
• Have the movement reviewed, HEV sealed, grease the O-rings: $40
• make sure the crystal is seated properly (rarely a problem)

So for $275, I believe you're getting one hell of a DSSD

 

[mkalbaker]

Oh you silly boy! These are trusted dealers, and the photos they use are of the actual watch and not a gen. I have NEVER seen or read any accusations that our trusted dealers use gen photos to "trick" customers. I have utter complete confidence that Puretime is using actual photos of the actual watch. I'll be purchasing this version to provide a hands on review to support the one above using Puretime's images.

I know BK has a lot of fans, but I can guarantee that this will be well worth purchasing. As a side note, any rep should have a qualified watchsmith go over it to ensure that all is well. I use Katt and it should cost an extra $40ish to do this.

On this I would:

• Replace the insert with a Trevor Version: $35
• Have the movement reviewed, HEV sealed, grease the O-rings: $40
• make sure the crystal is seated properly (rarely a problem)

So for $275, I believe you're getting one hell of a DSSD

ok fine but you forgot to have a say about the movement? and what about the pearl?

 

[ThinkBachs]

ok fine but you forgot to have a say about the movement? and what about the pearl?

Movement seems just fine, I'll have to do some research on it. As far as the pearl, I made two references to the pearl above. Since I'd replace the bezel insert with a Trevor one (which I have already- always buy in bulk!) I didn't spend much time even thinking about the pearl.

Pearl:
Pearl surround should have a flat top, but does go to the edge very nicely. There are many others that look like this but have too much space between the top of the surround and the outer edge.

Overall, I've seen worse pearls. On this one, I'd take the insert out, pop the pearl and reposition it. That would make a big difference. After doing that, you'd have a bezel insert that only the anal would bother replacing.

 

[G30]

As I mention in an another post, BK's DSSD is a v6 and I have that confirmation in a PM from him. I should check with Trevor and see if the bezel insert is available yet or, would you sell me one of yours Bachs? Say, for a bazillion gazillion dollars??