Buying a PAM111H where, and which one ?

[avwbugz]

What are the difference:
PAM 111H
PAM 111E
Ultimate PAM111H

Saw this at Davidsen.

 

[horologie_unitas]

111 H : sandwich dial ( Stullen Ziffern Blatt )

111E : sausage dial ( Wurscht Ziffern Blatt )

ultimate : several times improved and - at the moment _ best version.

here my 111 E ultimate AAA swiss +++++ grade

 

[avwbugz]

NICE mate! Who did you get it from and how much did you pay for it, if you don't mind me asking?

 

[avwbugz]

On second note, what sort of solution did you get to polish your watch? It is really shiny!

 

[alvinado]

It a 111E , So nothing is brushed on this watch. For a 111h, the crown guards are brushed.

That why it seems like it is so shiny!!!

 

[avwbugz]

What do you mean by brushed? Do you mean polished? Still new to all these terms

 

[madcatlancelot]

You can think of brushed metal finish as similar to matte finish picture...

The Panerai 111H that I just ordered recently arrived today, I tried to capture as much as I can to show how nice this watch is. This is a cheap version 111H ($128) that I found from a trusted dealer here, it has swan neck and the Officine Panerai word is embossed, the leather strap though needs to be replaced.

 

[markharris]

great watch for $128 ive been thinking of getting my first pam cheap first what seller does this for that price

 

[madcatlancelot]

Watcheden has this model. http://www.watcheden.com/panerai-lu...itas-6497-swan-neck-movement-i-28954-p-1.html

This model has mineral glass and no AR, but pretty nice for the price nonetheless. [smilie=alien.gif]

 

[sconehead]

Or if you want AR and half decent lume but no swan neck for $99 plus shipping try T4D here, http://anonym.to/?[url]http://www.replica-wa ... 96&t=43897[/url] , for an extra $70 you can have it with the swan neck and the modded cannon pin... :wink:

 

[cybee]

The Panerai 111H that I just ordered recently arrived today, I tried to capture as much as I can to show how nice this watch is. This is a cheap version 111H ($128) that I found from a trusted dealer here, it has swan neck and the Officine Panerai word is embossed, the leather strap though needs to be replaced.

I think your watch looks great. Some of the Pannie experts will find little things here and there but for $128 it's a nice watch. When you are sipping a latte on the boulevard no one will know. Enjoy the watch.

 

[madcatlancelot]

Thanks cybee, I really enjoy this watch. I'm reducing some of the Omegas to add another Panerai, most probably the 177H titanium. This watch can get scratched easily.

$128 and less $20 plus free shipping? Can't ask for more. [smilie=alien.gif]

 

[jayzm5]

it all comes down how much you really want to spend, I think this is perfect suggestion of all on here.

Most rep PAMs 111 come with an horrible blue AR coating... If those of DSN are different, then I would go for him, knowing that you get a good watch out of the box. But I never tried him, so can't say or recommend him. (Look for his section here). Besides, his lume does not seem as good as Vac's one.

Both PAM you show are expensive due to their expensive Swiss movement.
You still need to fix a few things, including AR coating and canon pinion + most probably lever and lever pin

My advice (what I did) :
- buy a 111H with Asian Swan neck movement from D4M.
They have 3 huge advantages : come with a high canon pinion out of the box, swan neck and engraved mechanism (not stickers) - count with 150 USD all inclusive (+/-)
Needless to say that you have a sapphire crystal

- make it lumed by Vac (about 120 USD) - he's a modder in the US (search his section on the forum)

- if you want to go further, have the crown changed by Vac and lever + lever pin fixed (about 100 USD)

- then, depending on how gen you want to look, have a double AR from Chieftang (provides this service on RWG), which you will keep as it is, or have the outside AR stripped, keeping the inside only (I kept the double) (about 80 USD, depending on which options you take)

All together, you'll have a better PAM than those you linked, and IMO better than DSN's 111 for a price between 270 and 450 USD.

Except the colour of some screws, I don't see the advantage of the Swiss movement.

Customs : use standard registered airmail, there won't be troubles. Problems often come from Courier Services like Fedex, DHL or whoever...

I hope to be able to post my "ultimate" PAM 111 in 2-3 weeks, when my crystal is back from Chief's AR run.

 

[caterpillar]

My suggestion as pam 111h also, it holds the strongest value in the market and most popular as well in case if you ever want to sell it.

 

[sauce79]

It looks like the 111h from D4M comes with an AR coating - is it not good? Why would you have Chieftang redo it for an extra $80?

 

[Taz]

Wow lots of info. If I wanted to by the Best Pam 111h does someone make one with all the needed mods already done?