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d4m.test

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When luxury items get displayed like cheap massware, they become just like that.
At that distance, I simply couldn´t tell if they are rep or gen.
Seems like the Slytech incident didn´t go down too well with the fans, 30% discount is impressive.
 
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d4m.test

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When luxury items get displayed like cheap massware, they become just like that.
At that distance, I simply couldn´t tell if they are rep or gen.
Seems like the Slytech incident didn´t go down too well with the fans, 30% discount is impressive.
 

SuperLory

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i would in fact be extremily dubious all those are gen. Extremely.
 

M_Hall

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I have to admit when I first saw this I assumed they were rep before reading the post.

Terrible window display, the AD's here in London have incredible displays that do these fine watches justice.

You also get treated like a king whilst you shop.




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stevebanshee

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Yeah agreed.. To be honest displayed like that and you didn't know anything about the brand the likelyhood of paying the tag price is pretty slim.. She seemed pretty keen to shift them.. I guess they have too much inventory.
 

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Yeah agreed.. To be honest displayed like that and you didn't know anything about the brand the likelyhood of paying the tag price is pretty slim.. She seemed pretty keen to shift them.. I guess they have too much inventory.

I think they have more than a tad too much. They have more PAMs than the OP boutiques. :lol:
 

HeavenStorm

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Gen watches display in asia looks like that. They simply have too many stocks. May i know where in HK is this? I might be interested during my next visit lol
 

trailboss99

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An open offer of 30% off? Holy crap it is the end of the world after all!
 

mysterio

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No man they are all discounted.. That's what I thought at first so I asked the sales lady

Then that's a fail at advertising. :lol: There should be a big sign with "Archie Luxury says the truth! All Panerai at 30% off you wankers!" Hahaha
 

korneevy

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I'd say 30% is not fantastic for Panerai these days; if you know a decent gray dealer in HK, Indonesia or even Singapore, you can bid 40% offers and I can guarantee you at least a few of them would bait, most can't move ANY Panerai stock so considering they get them at 50-60% off via a backdoor of ADs, they skill making some money on each so give it a go.

I personally have no desire to invest in gen contemporary Panerai as I think it may get even cheaper in coming years due to their quickly becoming unfashionable size and bulk, so anything above 42mm will quickly turn into dead wood (from seller's point of view) in a year or two. Pre-V and early Swiss will prob keep most of their value at current rate, still prob will have to discount 15-20% to move them if it comes to it.

And these are gen for sure, there are countless gray dealers just like that in HK and they are guaranteed to sell authentic stock, no one pisses around with rep there nowadays...you will def get full set, dealer stamp and factory warranty with these...

I actually agree with Archie (however painful it is), the golden days of Panerai are well behind them and it's interesting to see what Richemont will try to revitalise and reposition the brand. They should begin by cutting the production size and the line-up by a third, and taking 25-35% of theirs RRP to bring it in line with the market.
 

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I've spoken in this more than a few times. I own several Franken and genuine panerais. The market has fallen. It's been saturated with over production and the fad and fashion of a once rich in history iconic brand is over. People are coming to their senses. When reselling dealers aren't even taking panerais in on trades or the wholesale buying limit is reduced to 70% off of the retail prices you know it's pretty much over. The only thing that will save them is getting back to their roots and getting away from the gimmicky and tasteless models of the last few years
 

trailboss99

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I'd say 30% is not fantastic for Panerai these days
Yup but this is right there in the open and that is rare. Is this guy an AD or a grey market type?
 

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PAM is trying to change. In house movements was a start, now the thinner 1950 case, and the luminor due. They need to work on their PR and stop releasing and releasing so many non special, for lack of a better description, limited runs.
 

korneevy

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Yup but this is right there in the open and that is rare. Is this guy an AD or a grey market type?

Of course he is a gray seller; you pull this sh.t with Richemont once and you've lost their full brand line up distribution rights. ADs are not allowed to display discounts, this need to be asked for... They won't do more than 20% either, too risky for them - hence this guy in a kiosk with a bunch of watches that he got though the backdoor, trying to move his stock;)