Found this information from reliable wechat sellers. Thought i would share this news with you guys! Looks now we have more competition! CF vs VSF (SBF) vs BTF!!!
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BTF 126500 LN Daytona with DD4131 Movement!
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Found this information from reliable wechat sellers. Thought i would share this news with you guys! Looks now we have more competition! CF vs VSF (SBF) vs BTF!!!
muiramas
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Looking forward to pics of the actual watch instead of the half assed promotional retouch with the wrong bracelet.
Also wondering if there will be a decorated movement. But BTF is known for makeing solid versions of Daytona 116....
And very interested where it will priced, between SBF 498 and CLEAN 838....
There might be some confusion about SBF/VSF. When I got it right, the low price is for the alpha version (with the raw movement) only. Where the final price will be, nobody knows. Maybe it´s on the Clean-level
Ah I see. But AFAIK the only difference in movements are that those movements are BETTER, because what seems to happen that the factorys or their middleman buy RAW movements from Peacock (with the QC and work done by peacock, professionals) and then take it apart, engrave it, and set back together and decide if thei want to lube the movements or work quick and profitable.There might be some confusion about SBF/VSF. When I got it right, the low price is for the alpha version (with the raw movement) only. Where the final price will be, nobody knows. Maybe it´s on the Clean-level
So maybe the ALPHA version is better in quality, but just not engraved. For me in a closed caseback watch even better
But maybe I get it wrong.
Never heard of any replica released as "alpha" or "pre version" bevore, just later a v2. thats fishy anyway.
Yes, I can only speculate too ;-)Ah I see. But AFAIK the only difference in movements are that those movements are BETTER, because what seems to happen that the factorys or their middleman buy RAW movements from Peacock (with the QC and work done by peacock, professionals) and then take it apart, engrave it, and set back together and decide if thei want to lube the movements or work quick and profitable.
So maybe the ALPHA version is better in quality, but just not engraved. For me in a closed caseback watch even better
But maybe I get it wrong.
Never heard of any replica released as "alpha" or "pre version" bevore, just later a v2. thats fishy anyway.
I have no idea whether this is a marketing stunt, whether they "just" want to annoy Clean and BT or whether they want to check out the market. As I've heard, the Daytonas from APS and ZF have sold very poorly (for reasons ;-)). Perhaps VSF first wants to test whether it is financially worthwhile to invest even more money in development? But that is really pure speculation.
I bought the VSF Panda but haven´t seen the QCs yet. I will keep RWI up to date when the watch arrives, if this is still needed in around three weeks ;-)Lets wait till we see the first QCs here. Or maybe just buy it
Interesting... the ad claims that BTF will use the "DD4131"... if this is like what we've seen from SBF/VSF then this will be a Peacock SL-4801 movement. That's not a bad things (other than the one-way rotor), but I feel it's misleading to call this a "4131"... it's not; it's an SL-4801 that may or may not be decorated or engraved. Call a spade a spade (or better yet call a spade a shovel). The SL-4801 movement isn't bad, but it's not a 4131 clone and reps with the SL-4801 should not be priced at the same level that reps with the SH4131 are priced.
Hi there mate, do you have a link to your panda purchase?
I would also like to purchase one but I don't know from any dealer.
Thanks in advance!
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I think I did the right move to wait, as @guru said the black dial looks good and more gen-like than clean (I don't like how clean subcounter have the numbers too close from the edge of the counter)
I think I did the right move to wait, as @guru said the black dial looks good and more gen-like than clean (I don't like how clean subcounter have the numbers too close from the edge of the counter)
The SH4131 movement feels crunchy, but I dunno if it's just mine or not.
I like how they are using a DD movement but you'd hope that on promo units they'd atleast have the 3 6 9 indicies straight.....
I like how they are using a DD movement but you'd hope that on promo units they'd atleast have the 3 6 9 indicies straight.....
This looks like the real deal — this is the Dandong DD4131 that we’ve been waiting for. The balance bridge appears to have a real paraflex shock setting not a decoration plate like the SH4131. I suspect we’ll also see escape wheel shock settings on this dd4131 (but it’s not possible to see that in these pictures). And it looks like the DD4131 is getting the full ball bearing block like the gen and SH versions.
I would very much like to see a part by part comparison of this movement with the SH4131 used in the CF 12-series Daytonas. Perhaps @CTime could furnish us with such a comparison.
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