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rols16610

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When a TD gives you a pile of cr@p You make it into a better of a pile of cr@p. I could not look at this thing any longer(even though i only had watch for about an hour) I removed the dial, popped the marker off, re-attached it and put everything back together. It's not perfect but its 100x better than before. I can at least wear it until I do the TC upgrades :cheese:





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That looks much better :)
 

45acp

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Folks, I think the "21j" that minkman is asking about is actually the "new breed 25j". If that's the case, I have heard that it takes eta sized hands. We and the dealers need to get the nomenclature figured out on this new movement to avoid this kind of confusion.
 

kambeix

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I think they could fit, since it's not a 2813, but an ETA semi-clone
 

mikeshark007

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When observing the movement with the case back open it looks just like an eta clone except with Nickle finish also the keyless works is/appears the same
 

Subjeff

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When I get home tonight,I will post how I removed the dial marker.

I just put on this dive strap until I get my new one from TC. I kinda like it and may leave it on for good. What are your thoughts?
 

45acp

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When I get home tonight,I will post how I removed the dial marker.

I just put on this dive strap until I get my new one from TC. I kinda like it and may leave it on for good. What are your thoughts?

Looks good!
 

Turbo350z

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Anyone else have the date 15-17 aligned more towards the top of the window? The rest of the dates look pretty good.


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R2D4

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If anything my datewheel is lower and tilted a bit. I mean it's not enough to even cry about. I just don't like the date font. It's too Xerox'ed if you will.
 

pjsayer

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In 3 years of rep collecting I've never known a thread to get so hung up on DW centration! But before we all get our knickers in a twist check out this Youtube vid of a gen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb8yaYzbukU

If I didn't know better his DW is slightly left justified also. And I had to chuckle when he was confused why his beautiful Rolex didn't change date until 12.06. Damn, my crappy fake changes at 12.01 :hehehe:
 

Bonesey

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Folks, I think the "21j" that minkman is asking about is actually the "new breed 25j". If that's the case, I have heard that it takes eta sized hands. We and the dealers need to get the nomenclature figured out on this new movement to avoid this kind of confusion.

I think you mean 23j which is the supposed jewel count for the high beat basic movements. I've had a few through my hands recently and all they are is a slightly upgraded 21j movement. IE a 4813. Which have been around for a long time but supply dried up in Rolex watches because they weren't being supplied with the higher pinions to make room for the date wheel overlay.

They are still based on the 21j (DG2813 etc.) movements from what I've seen and will not take ETA based hand sizes.

I think they could fit, since it's not a 2813, but an ETA semi-clone

Would love to see some pics of this 'semi-clone'.
 

ebzen02

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The only thing that bothers me about the watch are the hands. Once you fixate on them it makes you mad! I need to know if the TC hands fit this new "25J"movement..
 

45acp

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I think you mean 23j which is the supposed jewel count for the high beat basic movements. I've had a few through my hands recently and all they are is a slightly upgraded 21j movement. IE a 4813. Which have been around for a long time but supply dried up in Rolex watches because they weren't being supplied with the higher pinions to make room for the date wheel overlay.

They are still based on the 21j (DG2813 etc.) movements from what I've seen and will not take ETA based hand sizes.



Would love to see some pics of this 'semi-clone'.
No, I did mean to type 25j, because that's how the dealers selling this movement have designated it.

I don't know if you have read all the threads about this new movement lately, but there has been a good deal of discussion (and contention) about what it actually is. Josh describes it on his site as a "new breed 25j
Movement", and it looks superficially like either an eta clone clone or a dg3804, depending on who you ask. It beats at 28.8k, but is not (or so I understand) a 4813.

I'm not an expert on movements, but even among those who claim to be there has been no consensus about this movement's origin or design. I read that it has eta-sized hands posts, but I can't say for sure whether this is the case.

Here's the pic from Josh's website:

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People that have purchased it describe it as feeling much more robust than the dg2/4813 movements, but who knows?
 

Minkman

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I'd like to know so I can get some Clark hands and send this to a modder when my TC bracelet comes in :(
 

45acp

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I'd like to know so I can get some Clark hands and send this to a modder when my TC bracelet comes in :(

Are you on repgeek? There has been a lot of discussion about this movement over there, I bet if you start a thread about the hands size you'll probably find an answer.
 

Subjeff

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I was asked to show how I removed the dial marker from my BPSD. Note: I believe the correct way is to remove the dial completly (this requires removing hands etc)and then pushing the marker out from the backside of the dial.
That being said, here is what i did, I took a safety pin and bent just the tip of it by pushing it down on a hard surface. I then gently used it to flick/pry the marker off of the dial face being careful not to scratch or damage anything (FYI, if you do this in a lage ziplock bag you wont loose the marker if it goes flying) . The holes that were drilled for the marker feet were crooked so I removed the feet with some tweesers. I then used a dab of gorilla glue on the same pin and applied it to the face and reapplied the marker. It took about 10 minutes from start to finish.
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Hope this helps! :cheers:
 

Subjeff

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Just in case someone wants to know what the swiss mov looks like. I took these when i was fixing the dial.
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R2D4

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The aftermarket gen click spring does fit and work well with this bezel. FYI

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