Well it has Failed again, David said it was a very old used movement and perhaps its just warn out , Now as I try to wind it its clicking so I imagine the gear teeth are out of alignment, Don't really know , its keeping perfect time and all functions work it just skips like crazy now when I try to wind it. Maybe I will get a new Asian 2836 put in.. I'm going to give David one more shot then if that fails Katts or 10:10 will see. I'm going to start a part two new thread on this subject.