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Bezel and Dial Review of ZZF V2S 116610LV Submariner and Comparison vs. Gen, ARF V3 and Noob V10

TLW77

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Does it create lume missmatch if you switch only hands or insert from zzf to arf? Like for example zzf watch gets arf hands or arf watch gets zzf insert.
 

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Are you serious? ARF hands are in a different league to those on a ZZF.

The ZZF hand compared with gen, are very good. The only slightly noticeable difference is the second hand, the round piece on the bag is a bit flat next to gen
 

shortlegs

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The ZZF hand compared with gen, are very good. The only slightly noticeable difference is the second hand, the round piece on the bag is a bit flat next to gen

The ZZF hour hand is also wrong, too small a triangle.
 

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Agree and even so NOBODY will ever notice on the wrist.

Even us mad for this hobby (normal people don't give a shit about your watch) would not be able to spot anything without a gen next to compare.

On the zzf v2s the only thing I think I could spot easily (not on someone else whrist anyway) is the rolexX on the rehaut with the X7L serial, now they made it Y7L so ok a bit better
 

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I have just received my v2s, overall it feels much better than arf v3 in hand. I have owned a couple of gen's and the bezel action is very gen like compared to arf, I have read opinions that zzf makes it too tight but it clicks almost exactly like my longines and baume mercier divers.

There is only some minor problem on the rehaut crown, it looks a bit poorly done. The cyclops is a bit crooked but I don't care because I exchange for the prof's crystal. What is interesting is the hands. The seconds hand dot it about twice smaller than on the arf. Do you know which one is closer to gen? It is very visible when you compare them side by side.

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shortlegs

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Maybe you got a bad one, but mine is exactly like gen. Feel like we a trying to make up problems here.

Look. It is a FACT that the ZZF hour hands has a different lume triangle to gen, just go look at the many macro photos we have on the forums, and various other members noticing and concurring with this. I was merely pointing this out; I'm not saying it's a difference that will matter to most. To assume that I am trying to make up problems is unnecessary.
 

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I have just received my v2s, overall it feels much better than arf v3 in hand. I have owned a couple of gen's and the bezel action is very gen like compared to arf, I have read opinions that zzf makes it too tight but it clicks almost exactly like my longines and baume mercier divers.

There is only some minor problem on the rehaut crown, it looks a bit poorly done. The cyclops is a bit crooked but I don't care because I exchange for the prof's crystal. What is interesting is the hands. The seconds hand dot it about twice smaller than on the arf. Do you know which one is closer to gen? It is very visible when you compare them side by side.

Wow, didn’t realise there’s such noticeable difference. My guess is the hulk’s second hand lollipop size looks closer to gen.
 

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Look. It is a FACT that the ZZF hour hands has a different lume triangle to gen, just go look at the many macro photos we have on the forums, and various other members noticing and concurring with this. I was merely pointing this out; I'm not saying it's a difference that will matter to most. To assume that I am trying to make up problems is unnecessary.

One thing i've learned with reps is that there are very little facts involved :) There are always differences in batches and models, same as gens have small variations.

I don't need to look at macro photos, i can look at my own gens, and there is no difference in size on any of the 3 hands. The only notable difference is the seconds hand dot at the back being a bit more flat.
 

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Anyone been having delays on orders with this? Ordered and paid 6 weeks ago with puretime and still not in stock. Curious if Li or any other TDs are having similar issues?

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Anyone been having delays on orders with this? Ordered and paid 6 weeks ago with puretime and still not in stock. Curious if Li or any other TDs are having similar issues?

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I ordered with Li at the end of June, got QCs within one week and awaiting arrival in the next few days.
 
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dom1986

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I ordered with Li at the end of June, got QCs within one week and awaiting arrival in the next few days.
Would u mind PM'ing me Li's contact details please sir? I'm gonna order one via Li then c&r the one with puretime I think.

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One thing i've learned with reps is that there are very little facts involved :) There are always differences in batches and models, same as gens have small variations.

I don't need to look at macro photos, i can look at my own gens, and there is no difference in size on any of the 3 hands. The only notable difference is the seconds hand dot at the back being a bit more flat.

Sure, you go ahead and tell yourself that there's no difference. But stop saying that others are wrong simply because they actually notice and see something that you failed to.
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Sure, you go ahead and tell yourself that there's no difference. But stop saying that others are wrong simply because they actually notice and see something that you failed to.
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ZZF vs gen but I'm not saying anything just for comparison.

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Sure, you go ahead and tell yourself that there's no difference. But stop saying that others are wrong simply because they actually notice and see something that you failed to.
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Buddy give it a rest, you are really starting to bore me. You can study your macros all day, and you can make up all the problems that you want in your own head. But both ZZF’s I’ve had did not have an hour hand that was different from gen, whether you like it or not.