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AT&T Smart limits plan

coop

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R2D4 said:
Ok good points T. I do think parents have a big task to teach their children how to use restraint. I am lucky with my 20 and 15 year old children as they know the limits of what they can and cannot do.

My problem with this add on that Att is pushing is that you can call AT&T and have texting and data removed at no charge so no big deal there. But if you have a family plan this becomes more difficult. Some devices have a browser built in and you cannot move the icon or disable a button. My son accidentally hit a browser button trying to turn off his alarm. Later that morning he discovered his mistake, reported it to me and apologized. AT&T charged me for that at their highest rates. I talked them into only charging me for a month of data on his phone.

This is only one simple example of why you should be able to disable this on all phones and plans, yourself, without charge. If there is ever a class action suit on this I am climbing on board. Enough is enough. :evil:

Btw, my children have had phones when they started 8th grade. They participate in sports, after school practices, activities, get high marks and are frequently away from the house. I want them to have every opportunity to contact us with no excuses. This is not a problem for me. They use it very responsibly. They are very respectful and grateful.


If he only hit the browser button once it probably loaded the media net home page, which is only like maybe 300kb. So the charge wouldnt have been that much. Like 3-4 bucks. Unless it loaded a streaming music app. You would have to load alot of pages to really run up your bill.


All the AT&T hate is odd. Ive had all providers here in Stl. and ATT is by far the best, even with customer service.
 

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hk45ca said:
when i was told to be home at a certain time i did it or got my ass busted. i was told if i was going to be late for a good reason to call, it was up to me to find a phone. if i didn't call? i got my ass busted. i quickly saw a pattern, do what they ask me to and i didn't get my ass busted. it worked pretty well. :wink:

So next time I call you "brother" there will be more meaning than previously thought... When your father is 6'5", 275 pounds of pure muscle and happens to carry an uzi under his coat you tend to be respectful of the limits set for you. My dad had NO PROBLEM at all imposing his will upon me. It took one or two good beatings at a fairly young age (around 7-8) and I realized that he should get what he wants.

i swear man, my father had arms made out of some kind of super stretch rubber or something. he could back hand me across the top of my head from the opposite end of the dinner table. :shock:


and the what if she misses the bus question? she could do the same thing i had to... find a phone or else... only these days it would be easy, everybody has a cell phone. we still had tin cans and strings when i was a kid so it took a little more effort. :lol:
 

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coop said:
All the AT&T hate is odd. Ive had all providers here in Stl. and ATT is by far the best, even with customer service.

Coop, I hear you, I actually am quite fond of the service. I will stay with them. I was just pointing out that this isn't the way to collect more revenue from young families. I expected more from them that's all. :D
 

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None of you are mothers. It's the moms that insist on their dear ones getting cell phones.

I was a stepmother, and I was the disciplinarian in the family.

The whole cell phone subject has driven me crazy for years, and I also find it unbelievable how young kids are when they're getting their first phones, especially since at that age, everything has to be disposable.

AHW: "what happened to your X?"
Child: "It broke."

Children can't even take responsbility for having broken something. It just spontaneously combused, apparently. :)
 

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ahw676 said:
AllergyDoc said:
None of you are mothers. It's the moms that insist on their dear ones getting cell phones.

I was a stepmother, and I was the disciplinarian in the family.

The whole cell phone subject has driven me crazy for years, and I also find it unbelievable how young kids are when they're getting their first phones, especially since at that age, everything has to be disposable.

AHW: "what happened to your X?"
Child: "It broke."

Children can't even take responsbility for having broken something. It just spontaneously combused, apparently. :)
My stepdaughter's phones were gifts. They know if they break, we'll pull an old one out of the drawer and activate it. It's a big deterrent: they don't want to be seen with a giant, old-man phone. :D

Once, the youngest dropped her Razr in the toilet while at her dad's house. She called in tears. Amazingly, it was working the following morning. I sneezed on my first cell phone, the screen did something funny, and it broke.
 

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my wife dropped her razor in the toilet and she brought it home, i pulled the battery out and left it opened up for about 24 hours. that was almost 2 1/2 years ago and it still works great. they are pretty tough it seems.
 

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hk45ca said:
my wife dropped her razor in the toilet and she brought it home, i pulled the battery out and left it opened up for about 24 hours. that was almost 2 1/2 years ago and it still works great. they are pretty tough it seems.

I have done the same. Shiety Phone now. hehe :D
 

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fakemaster said:
Why is it their job to do it?

Correct, why is it their job to do it? They shouldn't be charging for it that's for sure.
 

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I meant that expecting them to do it as a free service. It's not their job to watch people's kids any more than facebook. Now if they have identified this...err...niche and want to offer the service I have no problem with it.
 

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hk45ca said:
CBR said:
hk45ca said:
when i was told to be home at a certain time i did it or got my ass busted. i was told if i was going to be late for a good reason to call, it was up to me to find a phone. if i didn't call? i got my ass busted. i quickly saw a pattern, do what they ask me to and i didn't get my ass busted. it worked pretty well. :wink:

So next time I call you "brother" there will be more meaning than previously thought... When your father is 6'5", 275 pounds of pure muscle and happens to carry an uzi under his coat you tend to be respectful of the limits set for you. My dad had NO PROBLEM at all imposing his will upon me. It took one or two good beatings at a fairly young age (around 7-8) and I realized that he should get what he wants.

i swear man, my father had arms made out of some kind of super stretch rubber or something. he could back hand me across the top of my head from the opposite end of the dinner table. :shock:


and the what if she misses the bus question? she could do the same thing i had to... find a phone or else... only these days it would be easy, everybody has a cell phone. we still had tin cans and strings when i was a kid so it took a little more effort. :lol:
Tin cans were invented when you were a kid? :shock:
 

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fakemaster said:
I meant that expecting them to do it as a free service. It's not their job to watch people's kids any more than facebook. Now if they have identified this...err...niche and want to offer the service I have no problem with it.

I feel that some parents I know want/expect someone to do part of their parenting for them. If you do it right and put in the effort as a parent, you don't need this plan.

Talk to you kids. Listen to your kids as well.
And if that doesn't work.......... bring down the hammer!(JK)
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I was watching the news yesterday and there was a report. Apparently they just discovered that children are greatly influenced by their parents. Their behavior, jufdgement and sense of right and wrong is determined by what they see. Whooda thunk it?
 

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sconehead said:
hk45ca said:
CBR said:
hk45ca said:
when i was told to be home at a certain time i did it or got my ass busted. i was told if i was going to be late for a good reason to call, it was up to me to find a phone. if i didn't call? i got my ass busted. i quickly saw a pattern, do what they ask me to and i didn't get my ass busted. it worked pretty well. :wink:

So next time I call you "brother" there will be more meaning than previously thought... When your father is 6'5", 275 pounds of pure muscle and happens to carry an uzi under his coat you tend to be respectful of the limits set for you. My dad had NO PROBLEM at all imposing his will upon me. It took one or two good beatings at a fairly young age (around 7-8) and I realized that he should get what he wants.

i swear man, my father had arms made out of some kind of super stretch rubber or something. he could back hand me across the top of my head from the opposite end of the dinner table. :shock:


and the what if she misses the bus question? she could do the same thing i had to... find a phone or else... only these days it would be easy, everybody has a cell phone. we still had tin cans and strings when i was a kid so it took a little more effort. :lol:
Tin cans were invented when you were a kid? :shock:

we started out trying to use mason jars but they kept breaking, after some years tin cans were invented. of course we didn't have money to buy food in them so we stole them out of the rich peoples trash cans. the string was the hard part, it took a lot of clothes line if you wanted to talk very far. :D