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ARF 126334 DateJust 41, Best in the market

saxo

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Indeed it does. Tc was a good match for older bolder Gen font this batch of ARF DW is almost the same. Modern Gen DW are a tad thinner now.


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The difference isnt that noticable unless next to a gen, still its a subtle difference. Honestly if someone showed me that ARF DWs (good batches) I would think its gen. Correct me if Im wrong, the ARF font isnt as raised (3D) as compared to a TC/gen?

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saxo

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I agree. I think the jubilee looks good with the beveled bezel. Should the ARF DJ41 become available with a smooth bezel, I'll consider the oyster bracelet more than the jubilee bracelet.
Jubilee bracelt + fluted bezel
Oyster bracelet + smooth bezel
But its up to personal preference.

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BlackJaguar

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The difference isnt that noticable unless next to a gen, still its a subtle difference. Honestly if someone showed me that ARF DWs (good batches) I would think its gen. Correct me if Im wrong, the ARF font isnt as raised (3D) as compared to a TC/gen?

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This is exactly correct when compared to gen. The DW can be distinguishable depending on the date (bold vs not so bold). The remainder of the watch is almost identical. Not sure about it being raised, though.
 
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adriankupferzundel

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I have my watch now for a few weeks and it‘s been hold and inspected(!) by a few of my watch interested friends (who own tudors and submariners), and NOT ONE of them found it suspicious in any way, even if they had seen gen models in the past or on photos a short time before. I‘m always amazed that nobody (except from real pros probably) is able to tell. Just my 2 cents, don‘t get too bothered over details.
 

roadtofreedom

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I saw several movements on these reps.

Is A3235 movement more reliable than A2836?.

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roadtofreedom

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Before I start answering your questions, just note that I also owned the REF DJ 41 (I bought it awhile ago and sold it) and this is WAAAAAYYYYY better than the REF. This feels like a gen DJ 41 and is MILES ahead. The watch also keeps great time and doesn't have a BS clone movement that needs immediate servicing.

Answers below:

Question: How is the AR on the crystal, I hope it's not too reflective?

Answer: The AR is similar to the Rolex crystal. Not absolutely clear like the Prof AR x 2,but not overly reflective. It's just right and the quality is very good. Better than most of the stock crystals. Honestly, you can get away with keeping it and no one would be the wiser. Obviously, as with any Franken projects, the more you switch out with the gen, the better the quality. But ARF has done a real great job with this built.

Question: Is the Lume strong?

Answer: Very strong. If you get prime sun exposure, or just charge it with you IPhone flashlight, the lume glows like it has lights on it. The lume is very well done. See the photos I posted.

Question: Does the weight of the watch feel solid ?

Answer: Quality is amazing. Feels solid and the bracelet is buttery smooth. Personally, I was not a fan of the REF Jubilee and although the case quality was great, in my humble opinion the ARF is way better. Also, the dial is just absolutely amazing. They really mimicked the color of the blue correctly. The REF was over saturated and almost had a purplish hue. You don't have that issue with the ARF. My buddy has a DJ 41 blue dial, and we compared this with his and the color was dead on. Honestly, other than the DW, it is hard to distinguish the feel of the watch and/or the dial color with a gen. Similarly, the way the bezel sparkles, and the quality of everything is just amazing.

Question: Does the date flip instantly at midnight?

Answer: So, at 11:59pm, you can see it slightly shift, but it doesn't flip until the minute marker hits 12:00pm. So, yes, the date flips instantly at midnight. People were complaining that this was an issue, but maybe it was overplayed by those who didn't actually own the watch?

Question: Is the cyclops centred in line with the date window?

Answer: Mine is, but that is because I QC'd to make sure of it. This is a QC issue which you have to be on the lookout for. Honestly, if ARF just freakin' had a better DW this would be a NWBIG (imo). I just hope ARF fixes the DW and provide a Jubilee option. If it does, I'll be the first to source it, so I can switch to it whenever I want.

In sum, though, I would give this watch a 98.5/100. The DW is the biggest issue. Otherwise, ARF really knocked it out of the park with this.

Great responses man.

Is it ths one: https://puretime.io/watch-brands/ro...steel-blue-dial-on-oyster-bracelet-a2824.html?
 

BlackJaguar

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How far was the DW from a gen?

Not as much as I thought, but enough where you notice it when comparing the two. It would be difficult for someone to notice on the wrist. Some numbers you can't tell the different at all; whereas others are more pronounced (e.g., 28, 31 etc.)
 

Cadows

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I have my watch now for a few weeks and it‘s been hold and inspected(!) by a few of my watch interested friends (who own tudors and submariners), and NOT ONE of them found it suspicious in any way, even if they had seen gen models in the past or on photos a short time before. I‘m always amazed that nobody (except from real pros probably) is able to tell. Just my 2 cents, don‘t get too bothered over details.

Did you waterproof tested it and what was the result and did you do additional waterproofing and how lume looks like?
 

lilmoogz

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Hi guys,

Can a gen 3135 roulette date disc be installed on the arf dj41?

Thanks!


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