APW+ 26331 - Not 7750?

[daytonadude]

Seemingly a new release, though I remember reading that the movement would be a modified 7750. However the release post says the movement is Dandong and that the watch is 11mm.

Have asked to get additional details from some dealers and will follow up.

Translated:

Breaking News!!!

APW+ (Steel King) introduces an exclusive version with the same thickness as the original Audemars Piguet 26331OR Royal Oak Chronograph Mechanical Watch, 41MM. A market-exclusive integrated masterpiece!

Key Features:

1. Custom-developed movement: All functionalities are identical to the original, featuring a 3 o’clock minute counter, 6 o’clock small seconds, and 9 o’clock hour counter.

2. Perfect alignment of sub-dials: The three sub-dials are precisely positioned in line with the original’s center axis.

3. Exact thickness: Matches the original’s 11mm thickness!

4. Power reserve: 42 hours, powered by the highly stable Dandong Peacock movement.

5. Authentic case and strap construction: Follows the exact assembly method of the original, with a sapphire crystal glass mirror that offers the same dual-sided high transparency and anti-reflective effects as the original. The stainless steel case is crafted using original data molds and features top-tier polishing and finishing. Every detail, from the texture to the feel, closely mimics the original, with brushed and polished elements giving it a refined yet bold look.

One-to-One Functional Restoration:

• The distance between the sub-dials, the movement thickness, and all other aspects are perfectly aligned with the original model.

 

[Reaps]

Lots of weird things about this. I originally thought it was the APW release which we have discussed which was a 7750. But you're right, lots of weird things about this announcement point to potentially something else.

The Dandong Peacock movement COULD refer to the 7750, after all, there is two factories that make 7750, Dandong and Shanghai and that they want to differentitate between the two. The Dandong 7750 is apparently more stable than the Shanghai 7750.

But then some weird things point out, they emphasize 11mm thickness which 7750 is not capable of. Additionally they refer to the features as :

1. Custom-developed movement: All functionalities are identical to the original, featuring a 3 o’clock minute counter, 6 o’clock small seconds, and 9 o’clock hour counter.

But they don't mention the date. Could it mean that they are using the Dandong Peacock 4801 which could achieve this thickness?

But then on the image you showed, it also highlights the "date" as a feature, which the 4801 does not have. Or is it a modified 4801 with a date feature which could very well be capable with some custom parts and shenanigans.

Basically, lots of speculation, need more info.

 

[daytonadude]

Just confirmed they are using the 4801… I asked for pictures but the dealer said he didn’t have any yet.

Is it physically possible for them to use the 4801? Or are they modifying/extending subdial pinions to do this?

 

[Reaps]

Just confirmed they are using the 4801… I asked for pictures but the dealer said he didn’t have any yet.

Is it physically possible for them to use the 4801? Or are they modifying/extending subdial pinions to do this?

My bet is it's just rep marketing and they haven't altered the subdial location. We would need more photos to see. Honestly they look very similar in terms of subdial location.

The key difference is that the subdials of the AP are level with the cannon pinion, whereas the 4130 Daytona has the subdial of the hands above the cannon pinion.

How about the date function? Stock 4801 doesn't come with any date feature.



We basically need real photos.

But honestly, I would get it. It's a reasonable compromise and a functional thin AP with a clone 4801 isn't the worst thing ever.

 

[grillbrill]

Seemingly a new release, though I remember reading that the movement would be a modified 7750. However the release post says the movement is Dandong and that the watch is 11mm.

Have asked to get additional details from some dealers and will follow up.

Translated:

Breaking News!!!

APW+ (Steel King) introduces an exclusive version with the same thickness as the original Audemars Piguet 26331OR Royal Oak Chronograph Mechanical Watch, 41MM. A market-exclusive integrated masterpiece!

Key Features:

1. Custom-developed movement: All functionalities are identical to the original, featuring a 3 o’clock minute counter, 6 o’clock small seconds, and 9 o’clock hour counter.

2. Perfect alignment of sub-dials: The three sub-dials are precisely positioned in line with the original’s center axis.

3. Exact thickness: Matches the original’s 11mm thickness!

4. Power reserve: 42 hours, powered by the highly stable Dandong Peacock movement.

5. Authentic case and strap construction: Follows the exact assembly method of the original, with a sapphire crystal glass mirror that offers the same dual-sided high transparency and anti-reflective effects as the original. The stainless steel case is crafted using original data molds and features top-tier polishing and finishing. Every detail, from the texture to the feel, closely mimics the original, with brushed and polished elements giving it a refined yet bold look.

One-to-One Functional Restoration:

• The distance between the sub-dials, the movement thickness, and all other aspects are perfectly aligned with the original model.

I'm seriously interested in the 38 mm version if this is real and if its little brother comes.

 

[m5smg2]

If accurate, this is impressive. But as pointed out, the Peacock 4801 has 4130 configuration with 3 & 9 counters raised, where the 26331 has center line counters. Then there’s the date which the 4130 and 4801are not set up for. If the description is real, it can only be a new DD/Peacock movement ?

id take the over 26331 the 26240 for the closed case back..

 

[dc2Rk24]

Praying to the gods that they release the 26315 as well

 

[SHB]

Interesting, looking forward to it

 

[SOLEX]

I would much prefer this to the 26240, but agree with others if a 38mm would be in the pipeline i would 1000% wait for that and be a happy man

 

[X24222]

I would much prefer this to the 26240, but agree with others if a 38mm would be in the pipeline i would 1000% wait for that and be a happy man

Bc of the closed case back and the dial contrast, or another reason?

 

[dc2Rk24]

I think most of us suffer from tiny wrist syndrome and this reference has a little brother at 38mm which wears pretty much like a Daytona and is perfect.
I’m actually very curious as to why these factories don’t want to make a high end smaller diameter model given the fact that most of the Chinese/Asia market suffers from the same tiny wrist syndrome

 

[Reaps]

I think most of us suffer from tiny wrist syndrome and this reference has a little brother at 38mm which wears pretty much like a Daytona and is perfect.
I’m actually very curious as to why these factories don’t want to make a high end smaller diameter model given the fact that most of the Chinese/Asia market suffers from the same tiny wrist syndrome

There's lots of dudes with big wrists in Asia too. Suprisingly so. China has a 1 billion population so even 25% of that population size with above 7in wrist of that is 125 million people . And it's a masculinity thing... 36mm in Asia is consistently tauted/advertised as a "lady's size" and is consistently told as "woman's model" so men will naturally gravitate towards the 40mm+.

Only watch nerds care about watch sizing fitting into people's wrists, most people who buy a watch barely care about that unless it's humongous lol

 

[dc2Rk24]

There's lots of dudes with big wrists in Asia too. Suprisingly so. China has a 1 billion population so even 25% of that population size with above 7in wrist of that is 125 million people . And it's a masculinity thing... 36mm in Asia is consistently tauted/advertised as a "lady's size" and is consistently told as "woman's model" so men will naturally gravitate towards the 40mm+.

Only watch nerds care about watch sizing fitting into people's wrists, most people who buy a watch barely care about that unless it's humongous lol

Welp, everything you said made sense lol I hadn’t thought about it that way and doubling back my initial comment is 100% self derived, then I guess it doesn’t make sense for the factories to create a high end “ladies” AP model. So we are f***ed

 

[Reaps]

Welp, everything you said made sense lol I hadn’t thought about it that way and doubling back my initial comment is 100% self derived, then I guess it doesn’t make sense for the factories to create a high end “ladies” AP model. So we are f***ed

Haha when I went to HK I saw loads of dudes wear 40mm and lugs overhung their wrist. Noone is going up to them and saying "bro your watch is overhanging your wrist you should wear 36mm"

There's some 33mm AP quartz out there that are pretty good if you want! Woman's models are okay but below the size of around 31mm they're all pretty "middling" quality outside of like Cartier models and a few Bulgari models

 

[dc2Rk24]

Haha when I went to HK I saw loads of dudes wear 40mm and lugs overhung their wrist. Noone is going up to them and saying "bro your watch is overhanging your wrist you should wear 36mm"

There's some 33mm AP quartz out there that are pretty good if you want! Woman's models are okay but below the size of around 31mm they're all pretty "middling" quality outside of like Cartier models and a few Bulgari models

I already own a gen dial ZF 33mm RO that my wife has snatched away from me, unfortunately it never scratched that ap itch.
I’ve been eyeing @daytonadude ’s 14790 for quite some time now but being a chrono fanboi I always wanted a 26315 even if it was cnc build but no modder has measurements for the smaller case size nor do I think dials and other parts exist hence the word f****d
One can only keep hoping I guess

 

[SOLEX]

Bc of the closed case back and the dial contrast, or another reason?

A little bit of everything you said.... for 26331 specifically I prefer the contrast dial, and slimmer profile case. On the other hand I would REALLY prefer a 26315 as I wear a Daytona daily with my small wrist and I know that would just be the perfect size for me. I have tried on the 26331 it looks OK on me, plus I also have a 15202 XF which is a great fit so the 26315 would be the Goldilocks so to speak

 

[grillbrill]

I already own a gen dial ZF 33mm RO that my wife has snatched away from me, unfortunately it never scratched that ap itch.
I’ve been eyeing @daytonadude ’s 14790 for quite some time now but being a chrono fanboi I always wanted a 26315 even if it was cnc build but no modder has measurements for the smaller case size nor do I think dials and other parts exist hence the word f****d
One can only keep hoping I guess

It already exists as a CNC'd prototype with custom parts except for the gen 1185 movement. I have a high hope that some kind of slim rep caliber will be developed for it in 1-2 years.

 

[daytonadude]

I’ve asked around, no one other than this one seller has heard of APW+
Ask your dealers and let us know!

 

[happyguy1688]

It already exists as a CNC'd prototype with custom parts except for the gen 1185 movement. I have a high hope that some kind of slim rep caliber will be developed for it in 1-2 years.

what's the asking price for this one?

 

[SOLEX]

what's the asking price for this one?

Would love to know as well, but overall these custom builds vary depending on movement and if you are using gen dial or not.... May have been a while ago and I totally forgot who I asked but something like $10k which had a proper movement and dial