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- Thread starter Miguel Piguet
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We all know this, it's no excuse to rob or deceive anyone off their cash, whether they have gazillions of money or not that's not the point (If they are buying on ebay they are not corporations with unlimited amounts of money so don't think a billionaire would be seen bidding on ebay, they'll go directly to an AD or even have it delivered to them directly) .... Imagine you were the victim ?? No excuse for fraud whether robbing the rich or the poor .... Yes it's a crazy world but no need going deep into that, at least those potential buyers had a lucky escape that's the important thing.
I don't care if I'm buying a rep because I know what I'm getting and it's nobody's business (illegal or not). As long as I ain't hurting nobody DIRECTLY that's the point .....
People at watch industry get less money, have less business, and there is less healthy competition in the free market due to so salled rep market. From ethical point of view, there is no lesser evil here, both are wrong. You think that one is more evil than the other, because you steal from guy that owns yachts, or some hedge fund that owns companies, and it's not on personal level. But please believe me, both from ethical/legal point of view are wrong, and psychologically you're just trying to justify your actions. And it's easy, because it is remote. Nobody here steals anything directly. But it is still wrong. Its like discussing: "Well, scamming on ebay is better than mugging old ladies, I need some money, so scamming is so much better, I scam a guy that does not want to support authorized dealers etc. its basically his fault". And it is true - ebay is cheaper, because there is a risk.
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Till you're a victim of a scam yourself you'll probably keep making excuses for those who scam on ebay. Some might get away with it but Karma definitely doesn't forget faces. You're obviously going to deep for no reason. No need going back and forth no more, good luck to you and what you think is ethical/legal haha ..... That's all I have to say
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You must have been brilliant in your highschool debate team. Did you answer with "Karma" or some other "Tomato is a fruit" out of nowhere too? You are constantly missing points and this has proven to be futile discussion. Cheers.
people will never stop doing these kind of scams
n btw the second link is a gen mate..at least the pic is of a gen watch...
n btw the second link is a gen mate..at least the pic is of a gen watch...
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Then the seller would probably argue that you shouldn't have bid then and will probably give you a bad feedback ...... It's only after payment and when you receive the item that you can prove it's not an authentic if not it wouldn't make sense to bid without being sure ....
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people will never stop doing these kind of scams
n btw the second link is a gen mate..at least the pic is of a gen watch...
Eerm , thought the DW on the Panda looked a bit dodgy and besides it's only one not so clear pic to judge from, could have been copied from the internet which could be a tell :hehehe: . Besides don't think anyone will sell a Gen worth '10,000 and up' on Ebay at that starting price without a reserve price ??
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i agree....the pic doesn't look like the watch he's selling as the listing description definitely looks shoddy.....the pic might be copied...
but that picture is for sure of a gen as you can see the 3'o clock marker length, the DW is mm left to tachy, the tachy fonts are larger n also the tachy itself is more curved and also the case chamfers are wider n correct as opposed to a rep...
but that picture is for sure of a gen as you can see the 3'o clock marker length, the DW is mm left to tachy, the tachy fonts are larger n also the tachy itself is more curved and also the case chamfers are wider n correct as opposed to a rep...