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Any recommendations for the best factory and models of Richard Mille, Frank Mueller and Cartier?

Squancho0

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I'm looking for the best quality skeletonized watch I can get, from a factory that is well known. I have one from BFF that is great, VSF has been good, I've heard great things about A factory... Any recommendations for factories / models? I was also wondering, are there any replica chronographs that are known to work and don't have the risk of getting ruined beyond repair? I don't want a Daytona (have made plenty of Seiko Daytona mods) but maybe a Tag Monaco or any of the above mentioned, if they have a chronograph that can actually be used risk free. A Richard Mille with working Chrono would be very cool, or Cartier Santos Chrono... if they're skeletonized, even cooler. I just got a Hublot BFF white ceramic Big Bang Unico Chrono, and it's amazing, truly stunning, but I was unaware before purchasing that using the chronograph pushers isn't recommended. Any suggestions would be amazing, thanks in advance!
 

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You are learning that chronographs are hard to make and witj the rxception of quartz or Rolex 4130 / 4131, you have very few options. All modified 7750s and asian 7750s are labelled as "run the chronograph at your own risk"

Look at venus75 reps as well. But not too many of those around.
 
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Squancho0

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Think you need to make a third thread asking the same question to make more work for the moderators to clean up after you. :devilish: 🙄 :devilish:
Sorry I had no idea. I made the post then read a memo I thought was required before the post would appear. Did that a couple of times, and I suppose each time the post went through. I apologize to the mods.
 

Squancho0

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A top replica of a RM will run you around $20K to $25K. Is that what you are asking?
Wow! No, my budget would be say 1k USD max. I had no idea they ran that much. At that rate I'd go buy a couple of gens or very many reps. Are there any decent ones in the $500-$1000 USD range?
 

Squancho0

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You are learning that chronographs are hard to make and witj the rxception of quartz or Rolex 4130 / 4131, you have very few options. All modified 7750s and asian 7750s are labelled as "run the chronograph at your own risk"

Look at venus75 reps as well. But not too many of those around.
I learned this too late. I'll look this up, are those Rolex all Daytona's, I'd assume? I haven't seen any positive reviews of Chrono movements other than Daytona's for reps.
 

Squancho0

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So I guess, back to my original question, which are the best factories for Richard Mille, Frank Mueller and Cartier?
 

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You are asking for "the best" but do not have the money for the best. It makes little sense to me.

There are many great replicas out there for Cartier, and the "factory" depends solely on the model. There's no one Cartier factory that covers all models.

Frank Muller is pretty much dead in the water. You can buy GENs for around $3K, but no reps anymore other than the oddball M2M that shows up here once in a while if that's what rocks your boat. Patience!

RM is big baller game. There's only 2 manufacturers of those out-of-the -box and no replica will look believable unless YOU can pull it off. Do you look like you can afford a RM? If you can, good; if you can't buy a replica that you can pull off.
 

Squancho0

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You are asking for "the best" but do not have the money for the best. It makes little sense to me.

There are many great replicas out there for Cartier, and the "factory" depends solely on the model. There's no one Cartier factory that covers all models.

Frank Muller is pretty much dead in the water. You can buy GENs for around $3K, but no reps anymore other than the oddball M2M that shows up here once in a while if that's what rocks your boat. Patience!

RM is big baller game. There's only 2 manufacturers of those out-of-the -box and no replica will look believable unless YOU can pull it off. Do you look like you can afford a RM? If you can, good; if you can't buy a replica that you can pull off.
I was unaware that ANY reps went for 20k. I'm happy to spend 500-1000 on a rep of a watch that I'd never pay retail for (Hublot would be a great example and I love the reps I purchased at 400 and 750ish a piece respectively. Money well spent. 20k, for a replica? I had NO IDEA. I didn't realize I was asking for something unrealistic, thank you for educating me. No RM rep for me. Also no, I don't live in a mansion or drive a supercar so I suppose I couldn't rock it anyways. Good point. I don't pretend my reps are real either, if people ask I tell them, same with my gens.
 

Squancho0

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You are asking for "the best" but do not have the money for the best. It makes little sense to me.

There are many great replicas out there for Cartier, and the "factory" depends solely on the model. There's no one Cartier factory that covers all models.

Frank Muller is pretty much dead in the water. You can buy GENs for around $3K, but no reps anymore other than the oddball M2M that shows up here once in a while if that's what rocks your boat. Patience!

RM is big baller game. There's only 2 manufacturers of those out-of-the -box and no replica will look believable unless YOU can pull it off. Do you look like you can afford a RM? If you can, good; if you can't buy a replica that you can pull off.
I'm confident that I have a budget for a quality Cartier rep. No need to jump to conclusions and say I can't afford the best... However in the case of RM for $20k yes you're correct I couldn't justify that. I have seen good Cartier Santos reps from VSF for example I believe but I don't know if that's considered top tier either. I'm new to this, but I'm not trying to buy china time stuff, I have only bought from VSF, BFF (or BBF? Can't remember) and JFF. I was told those were the best for the models I bought at the time. If there's better factories please let me know!