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Anti Panerai 6154
- Thread starter John Paul
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rmcraig said:
I agree with you. daviden has outdone himself on the vintage watches and his Fiddy. I hope he stays in business for a long time until i can collect all the watches i want from him.
Holy hell that watch is amazing. A rep from the 30's? I am not much into rolex watches but this one is something special.
Thanks Mr. Enzo for the explanation...
and wow.. rmcraig you found the picture.. amazing... very nice indeed.
Dan
and wow.. rmcraig you found the picture.. amazing... very nice indeed.
Dan
Thank you enzo for the real story. I think I am going to purchase this watch. Very rare and unique indeed.
I am so glad we found out the story here very interesting. The bad news is that davidsen only made a few of these and they are all gone 
This is a fantastic watch. Rolex and Panerai in one. Considering it's size, it's the nicest Rolex in my opinion.
Cool watch poor lume, opinions?
He has some of these left for $300 but they have poor lume. Hmmmm worth it?
He has some of these left for $300 but they have poor lume. Hmmmm worth it?
Re: Cool watch poor lume, opinions?
How poor? Any pics? For a "vintage" piece, I guess the lume should be non-existent in the first place anyway. Right?
mickeypro said:
How poor? Any pics? For a "vintage" piece, I guess the lume should be non-existent in the first place anyway. Right?
Re: Cool watch poor lume, opinions?
That's what I was thinking. It would be good to see some pics.
Poor lume would be ok for a vintage piece, but the 'wrong' lume would be an issue perhaps.
N.
gen said:
That's what I was thinking. It would be good to see some pics.
Poor lume would be ok for a vintage piece, but the 'wrong' lume would be an issue perhaps.
N.
I was just thinking after reading this thread of the constant battle in what constitutes restoration in the various hobbies I have been involved in.
Some people believe that restoring it back to brilliant original issue condition is the way to go and others believe in preserving the patina and keepingthe item in restored operating condition only using original parts--regardless of their condition.
SO who is right? I for one regret polishing a Spanish Civil War Infantry buckle I purchased that was dug from around Belchite--yet do not regret restoring various unifomrs that had loose insignia and/or buttons using original threads. I guess it comes down to personal preference.
In this case I agree that a scorching lume job on this copy of historical beauty would not be consistent with an original that one would find now --- but, stylistically would be attractiveand possibly in line with what the item looked like new?
An analogy would be a British 18th century Reenactment group(23 RWF) I was involved with in the 1970/80's. They decided their "impression" was right off the boat circa 1777 (?) as opposed to an "on Campaign" look with bearskins tossed away and using floppy hats, cut down regimentals, repairs etc etc. Both are historically accurate--but one is "fresh from the box" and the other is "after use and abuse"
CISO
Some people believe that restoring it back to brilliant original issue condition is the way to go and others believe in preserving the patina and keepingthe item in restored operating condition only using original parts--regardless of their condition.
SO who is right? I for one regret polishing a Spanish Civil War Infantry buckle I purchased that was dug from around Belchite--yet do not regret restoring various unifomrs that had loose insignia and/or buttons using original threads. I guess it comes down to personal preference.
In this case I agree that a scorching lume job on this copy of historical beauty would not be consistent with an original that one would find now --- but, stylistically would be attractiveand possibly in line with what the item looked like new?
An analogy would be a British 18th century Reenactment group(23 RWF) I was involved with in the 1970/80's. They decided their "impression" was right off the boat circa 1777 (?) as opposed to an "on Campaign" look with bearskins tossed away and using floppy hats, cut down regimentals, repairs etc etc. Both are historically accurate--but one is "fresh from the box" and the other is "after use and abuse"
CISO
Well, I would have to disagree with the statement about watches losing half their value with a r-edial or restoration. Most of the value in a watch is due to the movement not the extraneous packaging. Unless of course we're talking about cases made of gold or platinum. Moreover, when one collects anything, it should be because you like it, not because the perceived value of it. If you "invest" in watches, cars or comic books be carefull, because in two, five or ten years it may be worth less then what you paid for it. Allways collect because you like it, whatever it may be. If it goes up in value, then it's gravy. Restoration is a personal choice. I happen to like the look of old beat up Panerai's, it some how suits their history and what they were used for. But other watches, to my eye, wear the beat up look less well. Some patina is nice, it adds to the character of the watch. In the end it's a personal choice particularly when you consider that it's your money. Who cares what anyone else thinks.
JP
JP
John Paul said:
Hi JP,
Interesting thread and interesting post. As a collector of several high end items (comic books, vintade audio, rare lps, yoyos), I will say without any hesitation that I DON'T want any restored, or repackaged, or otherwise un-original items in my collection. The true hunt for is for the collectible in original condition. Maybe watches are different, but if I was purchasing vintage Pateks, I would never buy one that had a new dial, case, hands, and crystal :lol: