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A new challenge for V7F - Mark XX Mercedes-AMG Petronas

johnchpark

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Eh. The Suisse release by both M+F and V7F had some flaws. V7F hasn't perfected their titanium case for the Mark XX yet. The M+ didn't really have a great crystal.
 

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Eh. The Suisse release by both M+F and V7F had some flaws. V7F hasn't perfected their titanium case for the Mark XX yet. The M+ didn't really have a great crystal.
what are you referring to? yes maybe the AR coating is better on V7F. But I still really like wearing it

 
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I installed the Sellita SW300 in one that had A2892 and that's the best 😜
You did the best possible thing 👍 But I'm still to experience an A2892 to crap on me, give it a good cleaning and some lube and you'll be good to go for years. I imagine it's the same with Miyotas. But I still despise them, that's just my thing...😁
 
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Does anyone know if it's worth going LJP G100 instead of SW300? The a2892 is pretty terrible
 

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Does anyone know if it's worth going LJP G100 instead of SW300? The a2892 is pretty terrible
What's terrible about a2892?

It's a well established movement and cloned so well the parts are interchangeable with a Swiss version. I have both Swiss and Chinese versions and there's not a significant difference between them. Amplitude is strong, power reserve the same and the timekeeping on the clones is sometimes better than the Swiss versions. And haven't had any reliability issues either.

If you think you have a duff a2892 you can look out for a Seagul ST2130. Quality is excellent.
 

johnchpark

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What's terrible about a2892?

It's a well established movement and cloned so well the parts are interchangeable with a Swiss version. I have both Swiss and Chinese versions and there's not a significant difference between them. Amplitude is strong, power reserve the same and the timekeeping on the clones is sometimes better than the Swiss versions. And haven't had any reliability issues either.

If you think you have a duff a2892 you can look out for a Seagul ST2130. Quality is excellent.
a2892 tends to have a higher fault/repair percentage compared to a2824. There is actual evidence of movement repair rates from China.
But the benefit is that a2892 parts are readily available, can be easily serviced, and at any point, you can drop in a brand new a2892 or a SW300.
I take that over a modified Miyota or the likes
 

StripYourEgo

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What's terrible about a2892?

It's a well established movement and cloned so well the parts are interchangeable with a Swiss version. I have both Swiss and Chinese versions and there's not a significant difference between them. Amplitude is strong, power reserve the same and the timekeeping on the clones is sometimes better than the Swiss versions. And haven't had any reliability issues either.

If you think you have a duff a2892 you can look out for a Seagul ST2130. Quality is excellent.
I have two watches with this movement, both a mark xx and a ingenieur. The accuracy is pretty bad, 3-4m a day on one, and 3-4 on another. One of them also broke about 8 months in, which is why I am now looking for the best possible option for my iwc.
 

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I have two watches with this movement, both a mark xx and a ingenieur. The accuracy is pretty bad, 3-4m a day on one, and 3-4 on another. One of them also broke about 8 months in, which is why I am now looking for the best possible option
 

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Ok, fair enough.
If you want the best then you can direct swap in an original 2892 or SW300. Those would be close to what is used in the XVIII.

Another great v option would be a Soprod A10 And if you don't want to stretch to those then the Seagul would be the next best option.

I'd expect reliability from any of those to be similar to an original IWC movement.
 
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Ok, fair enough.
If you want the best then you can direct swap in an original 2892 or SW300. Those would be close to what is used in the XVIII.

Another great v option would be a Soprod A10 And if you don't want to stretch to those then the Seagul would be the next best option.

I'd expect reliability from any of those to be similar to an original IWC movement.
I appreciate your insight! I'm new to this, so i'm still slowly gathering knowledge, you've helped a lot!
 

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Hard to say from these photos, but the crown might be a bit thicker than on my M+F Mark XX Patrouille Suisse, which would actually be more accurate.
 

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riHard to say from these photos, but the crown might be a bit thicker than on my M+F Mark XX Patrouille Suisse, which would actually be more accurate.
I think you are right, it definitely looks thicker than the one on the Patrouille Suisse
 

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It should be out now, looks quite okay to me , pictures here
eh. To me, the titanium plating finishing looks a bit too metallic. Almost titanium plated to look like SS.
The matte dial is also a bit off. Not even comparing to gen, it just looks cheap. Especially around the date window i looks messy.
I'd wait and see what V7F comes up with

Those are gen pictures from xbiao, you can see watermark, there is no pic of rep 😂