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A monster (first) order with Trusty Time

Rol.exe

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Haha yeah I just recognized that! Strange, but the sticker is different as you say! Have your watch been sent yet?

Mine was shipped last week and has left China according to tracking.

The first RXFs have started arriving. GingerBubba appears to be the first to receive his and has posted some quick photos as well as a video.

Kennygconspiracy shared a link to another hands-on video as well. At this stage, opinions appear to be mixed but we are all awaiting more photos videos, and a detailed review.
 

spencerswagu

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Mine was shipped last week and has left China according to tracking.

The first RXFs have started arriving. GingerBubba appears to be the first to receive his and has posted some quick photos as well as a video.

Kennygconspiracy shared a link to another hands-on video as well. At this stage, opinions appear to be mixed but we are all awaiting more photos videos, and a detailed review.

Amazing - 98% success rate. bodes well ;)
 

spencerswagu

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First QC Pics coming in on the RXF Sub:

Here's my initial assessment, but I'm new to this. What do you guys notice? What's considered acceptable?



Everything else looks good to me. Finishing, bracelet, SEL


PICTURES REMOVED BY STAFF - If the watch looks good to you accept it.
 
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spencerswagu

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PICTURES REMOVED BY STAFF - If the watch looks good to you accept it.

Forum etiquette question: Can I ask for feedback on the QC pics from more experienced members? There are a couple small issues, but I want some perspective on whether they are major enough to merit feedback to Andrew.

thanks,
- spencer
 

spencerswagu

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Question to the experts: is this datewheel / cyclops alignment too far off? Or within normal acceptable range?

humbly yours,
- Spencer

 

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Question to the experts: is this datewheel / cyclops alignment too far off? Or within normal acceptable range?

humbly yours,
- Spencer

What do you think is wrong with it Spencer?
 

spencerswagu

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What do you think is wrong with it Spencer?


Hey Tucker - the "21" date looks too far left in the RXF. For reference, here's Gen (below). I'm a first-time buyer, looking for advice. Is this (a) worth rejecting, or (b) such a small deal, doesn't matter. "That is to-be-expected in a <$400 rep." etc...




tripdog Lmao :)

Thanks guys,
- Spencer
 

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Hey Tucker - the "21" date looks too far left in the RXF. For reference, here's Gen (below). I'm a first-time buyer, looking for advice. Is this (a) worth rejecting, or (b) such a small deal, doesn't matter. "That is to-be-expected in a <$400 rep." etc...




tripdog Lmao :)

Thanks guys,
- Spencer

Your watch looks great. You can't compare it to a gen.
 

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Hey Tucker - the "21" date looks too far left in the RXF. For reference, here's Gen (below). I'm a first-time buyer, looking for advice. Is this (a) worth rejecting, or (b) such a small deal, doesn't matter. "That is to-be-expected in a <$400 rep." etc...




tripdog Lmao :)

Thanks guys,
- Spencer

Hey Spencer,
Do you realize the photo is enlarging the feature in question 2570 times the original size?
 

spencerswagu

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Hey Spencer,
Do you realize the photo is enlarging the feature in question 2570 times the original size?

Yep - totally agree with you tkingjr. I'm coming in as a new person to the community. Just wanted a second set of eyes. Seems minor to me too though...

But. QC approved then ;)

thanks,
- Spencer
 
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Maybe you can source a gen date wheel in the future to fix that. Really sucks.
 

spencerswagu

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Hey guys - just got QC pics for the PPF V4 Nautilus

What do you guys think about the date wheel alignment here? Too far off, or minor enough to accept.

Thanks, - Spencer
 

Rol.exe

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Hi Spencer, I think we share a common issue as newbies and that is over-analysing the pieces. With the wealth of knowledge and attention to detail of experienced members, it can be scary to think that we may be buying a piece that is obviously fake and we don't want that. But maybe we get a bit paranoid and assess them too stringently.

I believe TDs also screen the QC pics and if there are any obvious flaws, they address it with the manufacturers before sending the QC shots to us. They do this to protect their reputation and TD status. But it's still definitely goid for us to conduct our own due diligence as well.

QC at Patek is some of the best in the world, and I believe superior to Rolex overall. I say this as a gen Rolex owner but admitfedly haven't owned a gen Patek. I have handled them in-store but went with a Lange (a decision I now regret to a degree). What I have noticed with the gen Nautilus (in pics) is that the date is either perfectly centred or sits too far to the left. While that appears to be the opposite of your DW, what it does say is that even the watch gods at Patek don't always manage to get it spot on (and that's when paying top dollar).

It has been argued by many experienced rep collector (and even on gen forums) that these high end pieces are hand made (to various degrees) and that minor differences should not be viewed as flaws but as the unique character of the piece. Afterall, hand assembled is more likely not to have the same tight tolerances as a precision machine, right?

I'm in no position to give advice, but I personally used to dislike patinas in metals and leather. I always wanted perfection and was OCD with how I took care of my watches, knives, and leather goods. I have since come to love the character of patinas, wear marks, and tiny discrepancies as they are elements of uniqueness to your item and often each mark has a story behind it. But more important than that is that it shows the item has been used and enjoyed.

I don't think you have to worry about what others think of that DW alignment. I would say it isn't centered but I would also say it isn't a flaw. The main thing is that you love your watch and accept it for what it is: a beautiful watch that YOU will hopefully be proud to wear.
 

spencerswagu

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Last question to the forum. Does the lume on these hands look too green to approve QC?


First: QC photos Andrew sent me
Second: QC photos on TrustyTime site.


Just want to get a sense of whether this is within the normally accepted range. Thanks,
- Spencer
 

Rol.exe

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Last question to the forum. Does the lume on these hands look too green to approve QC?

First: QC photos Andrew sent me
Second: QC photos on TrustyTime site.


Just want to get a sense of whether this is within the normally accepted range. Thanks,
- Spencer

Please don't sto posting as I'm really enjoying seeing what you have ordered.

As a gen Seamaster owner, I personally wouldn't be happy with the lume on the hands in that pic even as a rep. There are times when the lume can appear a slight yellowish/greenish colour, and times where it appears whiter. It depends on the amount of exposure to bright light it has as well as how dark my current environment is. But while this can change, the lume colour is never significantly different between hands and hour markers like that.

If it has just been assembled and the hands have had more exposure to light then that would even out over time. But personally, I would want to be sure it isn't going to look like that before I'd go ahead with that. I mean, there are micro details we should forgive but that is a bit too obvious an issue for me.
 

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This will also be the last time you post QC pics in this thread - even ones with highly subjective ( and therefore essentially meaningless) questions attached.
 
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Last question to the forum. Does the lume on these hands look too green to approve QC?


First: QC photos Andrew sent me
Second: QC photos on TrustyTime site.


Just want to get a sense of whether this is within the normally accepted range. Thanks,
- Spencer

I’m in a similar position to the others on here whereby I’ve just entered the rep world and have had so many questions and concerns. But with the wealth of knowledge on this forum and continued experience through different purchases you learn quickly!

In my opinion everyone has a different threshold for what’s an “acceptable” fault and there is no harm in discussing it or seeking reassurance. I sometimes find senior moderate comments are rather discouraging to new members which should not be the case. I’m sure everyone was a bag of nerves after pulling the trigger on their first rep.

With regards to your pic, I just bought the Vsf v2 seamaster from Andrew last month and haven’t stopped wearing it since. Stunning watch and in my opinion indiscernible from the genuine. My qc pics did also show a differing lume colour but it’s not something I’ve noticed in the flesh. And the watch is so spectacular in real life that it won’t even cross your mind. Enjoy your purchase!
 
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