5711 how make a good Franken?

[MisterFancypantsthesecond]

A Franken implies having gen parts. So, what your doing is a mod.

Anyway, Im building what I think is the best choice based on reading all the threads and doing my own research over the last several months:
1. PF case, bezel, bracelet, crown, hands, and movement. This is the most accurate choice to gen.
2. MKF dial with re-lume. MKF is very close to 2014 and 2015 dial. https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=505965
3. Keylog datewheel.
4. Thin case, silence rotor, bevel and polish edges per gen.

That should produce a very close example.

afterwards, sell it to me for good price yessss

 

[buubdaman]

How much is a gen 5711 dial?! doesnt make sense right? Btw on the datewheel, even gen's are sometimes a bit off..

 

[Ultra929]

How much is a gen 5711 dial?! doesnt make sense right? Btw on the datewheel, even gen's are sometimes a bit off..

The 5711 blue dial is hard to find. There was one on eBay for $6500 2 months ago. Last time I saw it, went up to $8500.

 

[BlackJaguar]

The 5711 blue dial is hard to find. There was one on eBay for $6500 2 months ago. Last time I saw it, went up to $8500.

Chrono 24 has two on sale right now (damaged and non-damaged). The non-damaged one is selling for about $5,800.00

Links:
https://www.chrono24.com/patekphilip...id10818793.htm
https://www.chrono24.com/patekphilip...id11165991.htm


For comparison, the White Dial is selling for approximately about $3800.
Link:
https://www.chrono24.com/patekphilip...-id7923150.htm

 

[Mr.Marbella]

Good news for anyone who is interested in this mod ..

Decided to move the PPF dial + hands onto the PF instead of movement also. Domi says PF movement is superior to ppf plus the pf movement had the keylog/bionone dw already installed.

Ppf dial feet location is different from pf, so we either had to cut the feet or drill new holes in the pf case - went for the second option :

Heres the ppf with pf dial & hands

 

[Glaude]

Domi says PF movement is superior to ppf

Would be interested to know in what way, it's something rarely talked about, they are both Miyota 9015 but would really like to know on what aspect one is superior to the other

 

[Ultra929]

Very nice! Then you put the blue PF dial in the PPF watch?

 

[Genta2014]

Good news for anyone who is interested in this mod ..

Decided to move the PPF dial + hands onto the PF instead of movement also. Domi says PF movement is superior to ppf plus the pf movement had the keylog/bionone dw already installed.

Ppf dial feet location is different from pf, so we either had to cut the feet or drill new holes in the pf case - went for the second option :

Heres the ppf with pf dial & hands

Also Nice blue Nautilus one ! Is that a PF with DW keylog?

 

[Mr.Marbella]

Would be interested to know in what way, it's something rarely talked about, they are both Miyota 9015 but would really like to know on what aspect one is superior to the other

You would have to ask him for details as both movements look the same to me lol.

He said ppf movement holder didn’t keep the movement in place very good. One thing I also noticed is the gasket between the bezel/Crytsal and case.
Ppf basically just laid the gasket in between loose. On the pf the gasket was sticked on to the bezel and was also a bit thicker ( overall he preferred the pf movement and advised me to keep that one in )
Waterproof and tested to 50m, no issue.


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[Mr.Marbella]

Very nice! Then you put the blue PF dial in the PPF watch?

Yes, I still like the blue dial


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[gilrob]

Mr.Marbella,

Just to clarify, which Kelog DWO was used for the white PPF dial, the Kelog PPF DWO or the Kelog PF DWO? Thanks.

 

[Mr.Marbella]

Mr.Marbella,

Just to clarify, which Kelog DWO was used for the white PPF dial, the Kelog PPF DWO or the Kelog PF DWO? Thanks.

Since the PF Keylog DW was already installed I used the PF dw with the PPF dial.

Worked perfectly fine all dates are centered.

 

[Mr.Marbella]

 

[gilrob]

Since the PF Keylog DW was already installed I used the PF dw with the PPF dial.

Worked perfectly fine all dates are centered.

Yes, the dates are centered and the watch looks good overall. Some may say its a bit left justified but I thinks its okay. Congrats.

 

[Ultra929]

For me the mod looks 100%. I would not question this if seen on a wrist. Good job!

 

[Cadows]

In 2019 a franken doesn't need any gen parts

Because its impossible to find them for 50K watch lol

 

[QueTip]

Because its impossible to find them for 50K watch lol

Certainly not

 

[mottykytu]

Yes, I still like the blue dial


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How does the Blue (dial only) PF compare to PPF ? which one come closer to Gen or both are off?

 

[MisterFancypantsthesecond]

How does the Blue (dial only) PF compare to PPF ? which one come closer to Gen or both are off?

read various threads please. PF is better. both still off. MKFv6 best one.

 

[theREALgoat]

Because its impossible to find them for 50K watch lol

Not impossible, just a bit more expensive and harder to find these days. That might change in the future, who knows.