3646 MARINA MILITARE -ANOTHER VINTAGE PROJECT WATCH

[Finepics3]

There is no doubt that David does make an substantial effort to provide members here and elsewhere with something that can be worn out of the box rather than just with profits in mind like the other rep makers and his dial, while not perfect, are a good example of him trying to provide us with something a bit more special so he rightfully should be applauded for that and there have been a few of my other projects that could not have happened without his efforts - maybe some of us (me particularly) are a little too wrapped up with fine details (although that's not a bad thing entirely!!)

Still not had time to take any photos yet - thanks for that information Enzo - it is very useful and I had not known that. Actually just to add some information that I recently discovered that you might find useful, and on a slightly different subject, the switch over to Angelus movements by Panerai had little to do with the use of a second hand as was suggested in another thread (as the Rolex 618 certainly would have had the second hand pinion removed - in it's design and use for pocket watches it has a second hand) but was more to do with cost and the fact that Rolex were also concerned about the use of their movts in watches supplied to Axis forces (Rolex are afterall a British company).

I am interested to know more about the crowns you say were mostly replaced - is the tapered crown with the Brevet+ a later replacement or simply a design change in later models?

 

[hooligan]

There is no doubt that David does make an substantial effort to provide members here and elsewhere with something that can be worn out of the box rather than just with profits in mind like the other rep makers and his dial, while not perfect, are a good example of him trying to provide us with something a bit more special so he rightfully should be applauded for that and there have been a few of my other projects that could not have happened without his efforts - maybe some of us (me particularly) are a little too wrapped up with fine details (although that's not a bad thing entirely!!)

Still not had time to take any photos yet - thanks for that information Enzo - it is very useful and I had not known that. Actually just to add some information that I recently discovered that you might find useful, and on a slightly different subject, the switch over to Angelus movements by Panerai had little to do with the use of a second hand as was suggested in another thread (as the Rolex 618 certainly would have had the second hand pinion removed - in it's design and use for pocket watches it has a second hand) but was more to do with cost and the fact that Rolex were also concerned about the use of their movts in watches supplied to Axis forces (Rolex are afterall a British company).

I am interested to know more about the crowns you say were mostly replaced - is the tapered crown with the Brevet+ a later replacement or simply a design change in later models?

Well, said, FP. You are certainly not the only one that is wrapped up in the details of these things. That level of attention to detail only helps the industry, IMO, and forces the rep makers to get more and more accurate.

Interesting angle about the switch to Angelus from Rolex. I've never thought of that. Thanks!

 

[Finepics3]

Enzo - thankyou very much for that information and for taking the considerable time to give such detailed replies. Your knowledge is impressive and I am very far behind you in this respect. I have not had the time to go over a lot of previous posts (and here's me talking about the search feature!!) so this has made very interesting reading indeed. Again I apologise if I have come across as inflammatory (I have also apologised to DSN by email) but I do hope that I have made a reasonable point which might serve to improve the things that can be worn out of the box a little more for those members that are not so lucky to have the skills or access to tools and materials that we have.

 

[Finepics3]

I did say I would post some more pics of my 3646 - this time with new bezel but still the tempoarary dial. I hope you like them!!

 

[bigbadbrad]

I take your point about my abruptness, it was very late for me and I was tired, but I am getting a little fed up with seeing the same thing all the time - a lot of us older members at RWG feel the same way there too - maybe because the boards are becoming a little boring now and seem to be populated buy noobs who really don't know their watches at all (I know we all have to start somewhere but still the same questions get posted that have been answered hundreds of times before if only people bothered to use the search function). All the time I see people here lavishing praise on things that are clearly wrong by a mile so unless the faults are pointed out then David will not change anything because he will not realise that it's wrong. Also I did apologise to Enzo as I was a bit peeved at the time as the way things were described with CJ's watch made it seem like it was the first time it had ever been done.

Fair point, M. But some don't mind answering the same qns - also, you help by posting the pic above - not all have seen the various angles of these vintage cases - the more posted the better informed we are as a community. And enzo's done a great job here educating us on the surfaces / movements etc - it's a lot of info mate (we, most, have day/night jobs! And some of us pursue more than one interest - me, I have several, try me out on Napoleonic history, for e.g. :twisted: ).

BTW, I note the strap. Started a dialogue w/ Rob for my own 3646 but for some reason he's dropped off the map.

 

[Finepics3]

BBB - Rob is just so busy that he has not had time to even take a dump for weeks!!! I will be speaking to him over the weekend so will mention it.

I think I have to stop being such a grumpy old git!!! I realise that noobs have to start somewhere just as I did 2 years ago and it's not their fault. Again my apologies to anyone that I may have offended with my comments. I will make more of an effort with positive contributions in future.

 

[Panerai414]

Hi, what's the lug-to-lug size of this beautiful watch? Is it still available for sale?

Thank you.

 

[ALE7575]

Consult the maker
DSN - davidsenjpn
ALE

 

[hooligan]

Holy zombie thread!

Makes me miss all the Panerai old timers that moved on - like BigBadBrad, Enzo and Babola. It's a shame that Enzo took all his posts down, too. He was an amazing source of knowledge, especially about Pre-V and vintage stuff.