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243 Sub from ToroBravo´s and Jacob Strap

Therion666

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Why would one need such a photo? They're all the same...
 

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Why would one need such a photo? They're all the same...

Because of the circles on the subdials.
While noob replicated them to perfection, you see photos of many HF 243's with very prominent circles. I am interested in how OP's 243 looks like
 

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Oh,OK. Live and learn :) My Noob has the circles, but I can't capture them on a photo,they really are very subtle. Cheers!
 

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Because of the circles on the subdials.
While noob replicated them to perfection, you see photos of many HF 243's with very prominent circles. I am interested in how OP's 243 looks like

There are alwys circles on PAM 243 subdials without paint coating, even in gen
Anyway, when you get painted the dial, depending on the viscosoty and thickness of the paint, the circles are more or less covered, and sometimes, if the viscosityand the thickness are enough, they disappear almost completely.
Usually gen has the circles almost covered. In reps, either Noob or H maker, you can assure nothing

Read PAM GUIDE of PAM 243 you will find some explanations and links to PolonusTM comments about this matter

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There are alwys circles on PAM 243 subdials without paint coating, even in gen
Anyway, when you get painted the dial, depending on the viscosoty and thickness of the paint, the circles are more or less covered, and sometimes, if the viscosityand the thickness are enough, they disappear almost completely.
Usually gen has the circles almost covered. In reps, either Noob or H maker, you can assure nothing

Read PAM GUIDE of PAM 243 you will find some explanations and links to PolonusTM comments about this matter

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Thank you Ale!
I sure read all of your threads about the 243! :) They are insanely informative. Big thumps up.
I know gen 243 has the circles as well, but in all pics I have seen they are covered with paint so you can only see them in certain angles etc.
All the Noob V3/V2's I have seen looked virtually 1:1 in this regard.
HF V3's subdial on toros website looks horrible compared to noob or gen 243.
I am not sure wether this is an exception for this model, or if it is like this on all HF V3 models.
That's why I'm asking fellas
OP's photos are beyond awesome btw.
 

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Thank you Ale!
I sure read all of your threads about the 243! :) They are insanely informative. Big thumps up.
I know gen 243 has the circles as well, but in all pics I have seen they are covered with paint so you can only see them in certain angles etc.
All the Noob V3/V2's I have seen looked virtually 1:1 in this regard.
HF V3's subdial on toros website looks horrible compared to noob or gen 243.
I am not sure wether this is an exception for this model, or if it is like this on all HF V3 models.
That's why I'm asking fellas
OP's photos are beyond awesome btw.


As above commented, this matter is hit and miss on reps, and depends on viscosity and thickness of the paint.

Toro pics don’t have definition enough to see nothing.

If you consult Intime pics you can see the reflections in M-series (although circles are not visible):
http://www.intime.co/panerai/2147-pam-243-m-h-maker-1-1-ultimate-edition-on-rubber-strap-v2.html
But you cannot see the reflections or the circles in J-series
http://www.intime.co/panerai/2245-pam243j-h-maker-1-1-ultimate-edition-on-brown-leather.html

Diseno high definition pics don’t show either reflections or circles.
Just a matter of luck

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You are absolutely right.
I might have to give the HF V3 a try and order one :D

Cheers :)
 

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You can always put it on M2M if you can't live with them. But I must tell you that the problem is exaggerated, the circles are hardly visible in real life. You see some blown up pics of the subdial on your computer screen and get all worried how these circles stick out but in reality you won't even know they're there unless you look really closely under cerain angles. Go for it man, it's an awesome watch. I'd sell you mine, but I have too much money from modifications and servicing in it to be interesting for the market.