2 Franken Subs-thoughts please

[alligoat]

OK, now we're there! And we will have to agree to disagree. You're thinking that the 'R' in Rolex is too far over doesn't hold water- you're getting hung up on one little point that's no big deal. Look at the matte dial above- same deal, the 'R' is in the same place . Look at the 'Submariner' printing on the Sub 1 dial and the matte dial above- bingo- it's the same! And it's thin and large- not like later printing. OPD and SCOC printing is the same in both dials- Sub 1 and Matte. Those dials are only 2 years apart, my guess is that they're both printed by Beyeler.

It's your opinion that Sub1 isn't right- that's your opinion which you are entitled to. You've been around here for a year now, that's cool. And you're a self proclaimed expert- but maybe you should be a little more humble- there's a lot to learn and none of us will ever know it all.
all. Especially when you're dealing with 30 yr old Rolex stuff.

 

[alligoat]

Here's a dial from 1985- 8.8 mill SN- same dial as wampa's.

This dial has the same tall 'Submariner' print, same era- right after the end of the matte dials- which were 8.4m SN, when the wg surrounds came around with the gloss dials.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-ROLEX-...istwatches&hash=item2ec38a5537#ht_2120wt_1140

These dials ran up til around the 9mil SN- at that point Rolex changed to the smaller 'Submariner' print, etc.

 

[mitchbaria]

Here's sub1....clearly a Yuki dial

Here is a gen matte dial in a gen 16800

Here is another example of a gen matte dial....

I'm no expert but I'm not blind either,,,,and I've looked at thousand of these dials and all Rolex prior to the nineties had this type of printing so while you mean well, your totally incorrect and if you was to buy a dial with the type of incorrect printing that's on sub1 you'd have a nice refinished dial with a big tell...... and if the second hand wasn't in the way you'd see that even in the pic you posted the "R" placement isn't the same as the Yuki dial in sub1...not only the "R" but notice the misaligned hyphen also....

And he's an example of an untouched gen 16800 with the newer dials that were upgraded to white gold surrounds as in the sub1 watch....as you can see the printing didn't significantly change......

 

[Rudy40]

I see the party is still going!
Ether way!
Still a dam nice watch!

 

[wampa]

Mitch are you seriously saying sub1's dial is one of these?:

It's nothing like them, look at them carefully, the coronet, the printing, the font it looks NOTHING like sub1's dial.

You are also completely ignoring all of these genuine sub dials & the others in the thread which are the same as sub1 in terms of the R placement and the misaligned hyphen, are all these Yuki dialled refinished too??

http://www.chrono24.com/en/rolex/submariner-stainless-steel-black-dial-16800--id2202791.htm?id=2202791&picnum=0&tab=pics

http://www.chrono-shop.net/fr/84-rolex-submariner-16800-168000-cadran


Study sub1 dial properly and compare-it is gen, look properly at the texture, the patina & the quality of printing

 

[Rudy40]

Hers another Yuki dial
Not the same year of dial,,,,,But a Yuki dial
Look at the placement on the 'R',,,,thats why Mitch thinks its a Yuki dial!
They are a lot of them floating around!,,,

 

[wampa]

Did Yuki make a skinny coronet dial with the hyphen in the same place as sub1 too?

Because all I see is the same as sub1 is the R placement, not much else?

Whereas the gen dials I posted are almost the same as sub1

 

[shotgun]

The first Sub,not have a Yuki dial,the dial installed is 1000% genuine...
Yuki dial is totaly wrong!

 

[alligoat]

And he's an example of an untouched gen 16800 with the newer dials that were upgraded to white gold surrounds as in the sub1 watch....as you can see the printing didn't significantly change......

Mitch, here's where the BS buzzer goes off and you're all wrong- this dial is later than the first group of dials w/the wg surrounds and looks nothing like the earlier dials- the 'Submariner' print is smaller and thicker- these later dials are nothing like Sub1 and the other similar dials we've been referring to.

 

[Rudy40]

For starter's i think mitchbaria is talking about the one that came from rep geek
not shotgun's watch.
For second;; I'm not here to argue but!!,,,,you mean to tell me that a Gen dial,,,
has wrong placement on the 'R'????????????

 

[wampa]

yep, see this one:

Exactly the same placement, it is gen too

From the collection of James Dowling, author of The Best of Time-Rolex Wristwatches

http://www.ukwatches.com/shop/

It isn't a Yuki dialled example

 

[mitchbaria]

You win.....But I'll not have misaligned hyphens and crazy printing on a gen dial I buy... If you like that kind of thing, knock yourself out!


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