List of Super Reps

[newbie2replicas]

As I said no. Never have been, never will be. As far as differences go, 99% of them are loupe flaws anyway. I mean think about it for a second. Everything picture you see here is a macro shot blown up to the size of a human head. I have been on the forums for years. In that time I have yet to see one instance where anyone has been verifiably called out on a decent rep where they didn't cause it to happen. There are reasons that it could which I won't cover here because it is in the Noobguide. But needless to say these things are not the main factors associated with pulling one off. If they care, which they don't...well read my sig. In any case if they do think it's a rep it would at best be an unverifiable suspicion at which point they move on (usually) or they will ask (almost never). Personally I've never been asked about my watch much less if it was a rep. But we don't buy them with the intention of misrepresenting ourselves or deceving people. So even if someone did there'd be no reason to lie about it. That's why I love them. Total win win.

What you say makes complete sense. But my issues are more to do with my own neurosis. I want to buy a rep of a watch for a design that I am fond of... But the idea that I will be paying for something less than perfect really gets to me. Logically, I know that I should be leaping for joy that the AP ROO rep I can buy will save me £21,400 on the gen - but it still won't be perfect. :wacko: It has more to do with my own makeup (everything has to be perfect), than wanting to fool someone.

So any watch I buy had better unbelievably close to a gen, to the extent that I would not be able to tell the difference, else I'd rather pick up a cheapie watch.

 

[trksh-bzr]

I have to say that the whole thing, with the search for the 1:1 rep has also been one of my main thoughts, since I joined this life vital forum. another thing I have dealt with is answering to THE question.. Is it a fake or a gen you're wearing.
As time goes I'm starting to be more and more convinced about the last question, As FM says people normaly don't ask, and if they do, well you'll be better off just saying it like it is, it's a hobby to people like us. If you're trying to convince people who actually ask to your watch, that it's a gen, then you might be collecting reps, IMO for the wrong reason, don't get me wrong.
But this leads me to the first thing with the 1:1 rep, if there isn't one that actually lives up to the 1:1 status, so what. I for one enjoy looking at the watch for the design, the level of simplicity, or sometimes for technical details, the looks of surfaces and combinations of materials, and one thing that counts for most of the high end reps we are offered with the trustede dealers, is that the watches, no matter if some part is 2mm shorter, or the dial colour is a tad off, well then the watch is still as beautyful as the gen. the design is still the same, and the only thing that keeps frustrating us is the constant comparison to the gen. to take an example if you look at I think any chrono fighter oversize, You wouldn't doubt what watch this design is, right, it appears to be the exact same, even if the itty bitty details aren't.
In the end I have to admit that the closer, we get to the gen look the more interesting it gets, but I'd always rather have a rep of a watch I love, witch is a bit off, than go towards buying the closest to gen rep., for that reason alone.

 

[fakemaster]

Logically, I know that I should be leaping for joy that the AP ROO rep I can buy will save me £21,400 on the gen - but it still won't be perfect.

Well this goes back to the issue of 'pulling a rep off'. Only about 1% of the population can afford to blow $30,000+ on a watch. Are you one of them? If not then details are the least of your worries. Regardless, based on your comments I would say yes forget reps and buy a cheapie.

another thing I have dealt with is answering to THE question.. Is it a fake or a gen you're wearing.

If you're trying to convince people who actually ask to your watch, that it's a gen, then you might be collecting reps, IMO for the wrong reason, don't get me wrong.

You'll find that people generally refuse to talk about or gloss over the subject. They don't want to offend anyone. Personally I don't see how you could be offended by the topic unless you are the person being described and are bothered by your own behavior. I don't care what people do and I am certainly not judging anyone. But let's be adults and call a spade a spade. There are only two reasons that someone tries to pass off a rep as real.

1. You are a poser attempting to represent yourself as something you're not.

2. You are trying to dupe someone for the purpose of profit.

Sorry but like it or not that's the way it is. But I am a fatal optimist so I prefer to believe that this doesn't apply to anyone here.

 

[drobbins]

This is a fascinating topic and I would like to bump some more life into it. The Fakemaster is absolutely right that only one percent of the population can afford a $30,000 watch and most millionaires didn't get that way by buying expensive bling. I have close friend multi-millionaire who proudly flaunts his Timex that he got for $14.00 twenty years ago. (It's really ugly), but keeps perfect time, and is for him, a status symbol). Anyone ever read, "The Millionaire Next Door"? Some people are posers or feel they have to be for business sake. I know successful people who feel they have to have the bmw and the rolex in order to "pass" and blend in their professions. There many gen owners among rep collectors. The reason we collect reps isn't always because we cannot afford gens but that we cannot afford all the gens we like (for many of us that is most of them). It would never be practical to buy more than a handful of favorites. There seem to a few members of this forum who have been buying the dssd versons 1-6 for the past few years, only to give up and buy a gen. I, for one, would like more opinions: What are the favorite reps and why? I'd also like to hear more opinions about various 1:1, super reps and how they either do or do not live up to hype. This is a good thread. Please keep it going.

 

[seanf]

To respond to a couple of points-- I think the reason the most of us buy reps is pretty damn straightforward. We like cool watches, but we can't afford them (or have better things to spend the money on). For my own part, even if I could convince myself of the value of spending thousands of dollars for a watch (and I can't), one of the things that attracts me to reps so much is that I like the variety. I change my watch every day. If I really put my mind to it, I could probably afford a gen. But only one. Which would be a disappointment. So I'll stick with reps.

 

[R2D4]

Seanf = Millionaire Attorney

 

[mydnytrydr]

Seanf ..... that sums it up for me ........ +1 !!

 

[seanf]

Seanf = Millionaire Attorney

Actually, R2, I've made most of my money in acting as an, um, "broker" for Russian mail order brides. If you're interested, please check out my site www.desperateforagreencard.com.

 

[reeder139]

You'll find that people generally refuse to talk about or gloss over the subject. They don't want to offend anyone. Personally I don't see how you could be offended by the topic unless you are the person being described and are bothered by your own behavior. I don't care what people do and I am certainly not judging anyone. But let's be adults and call a spade a spade. There are only two reasons that someone tries to pass off a rep as real.

1. You are a poser attempting to represent yourself as something you're not.

2. You are trying to dupe someone for the purpose of profit.

Sorry but like it or not that's the way it is. But I am a fatal optimist so I prefer to believe that this doesn't apply to anyone here.

I don't think there's anything wrong with pretending a fake is a gen just to show off. If showing off brings oneself other things like girls, popularity and as a result, happiness then really, what's wrong with that?

Most of time i'm very open about reps and if anyone asks to see the watch i'm wearing then I tell them straight away it's a rep and I collect them.

However, for example, the other night I was filming an R&B music video and my role was assistant director for this one. I had agreed to lend one of my Breitling Bentleys to the star to wear in the video under the guise of it being real. Anyway, one guy picked it up and said for all to here, "is this a copy then". I looked at him and said, "no, it's a genuine", he asked how much, and I said "£5500". There were a lot of fit girls who heard this exchange so assumed because of all the expensive filming equipment (acquired for free through university) and the very expensive watch that I was an attractive wealthy young man. (Attractive yes, wealthy, No.)

They were like flies around shit all night which ultimately brought me genuine happiness.

Is this wrong Fakemaster? I respect your decision.

 

[R2D4]

Nope, gotta bride already. I am not a collector really, one is good with me. But thanks comrade!

 

[fakemaster]

I was really hoping the site was real.

 

[seanf]

I don't think there's anything wrong with pretending a fake is a gen just to show off. If showing off brings oneself other things like girls, popularity and as a result, happiness then really, what's wrong with that?

Most of time i'm very open about reps and if anyone asks to see the watch i'm wearing then I tell them straight away it's a rep and I collect them.

However, for example, the other night I was filming an R&B music video and my role was assistant director for this one. I had agreed to lend one of my Breitling Bentleys to the star to wear in the video under the guise of it being real. Anyway, one guy picked it up and said for all to here, "is this a copy then". I looked at him and said, "no, it's a genuine", he asked how much, and I said "£5500". There were a lot of fit girls who heard this exchange so assumed because of all the expensive filming equipment (acquired for free through university) and the very expensive watch that I was an attractive wealthy young man. (Attractive yes, wealthy, No.)

They were like flies around shit all night which ultimately brought me genuine happiness.

Is this wrong Fakemaster? I respect your decision.

Well, I'm no Fakemaster, but I think you acted absolutely as you should have. Here's my take. If someone I know asks me about my watch, then I immediately tell them it's a rep, and where I got it, and how much it cost, and how close it is to the gen, etc. And, almost invariably, they're a lot more interested in my watch than they would have been had I just told them it was a gen. And, more often than not, they ask me to help them buy a rep for themselves.

But if I'm in a situation where a stranger or some random person comes up and makes a comment about my watch, I typically won't tell them it's a rep. No reason to in that context. I mean, I don't go on about where I got it or how much I paid or anything, but I let them believe it's a gen. Just easier.

I was really hoping the site was real.

We're just down for, uh, restocking at the moment.

 

[lecool]

To respond to a couple of points-- I think the reason the most of us buy reps is pretty damn straightforward. We like cool watches, but we can't afford them (or have better things to spend the money on). For my own part, even if I could convince myself of the value of spending thousands of dollars for a watch (and I can't), one of the things that attracts me to reps so much is that I like the variety. I change my watch every day. If I really put my mind to it, I could probably afford a gen. But only one. Which would be a disappointment. So I'll stick with reps.

Same here!

 

[frigpig]

To respond to a couple of points-- I think the reason the most of us buy reps is pretty damn straightforward. We like cool watches, but we can't afford them (or have better things to spend the money on). For my own part, even if I could convince myself of the value of spending thousands of dollars for a watch (and I can't), one of the things that attracts me to reps so much is that I like the variety. I change my watch every day. If I really put my mind to it, I could probably afford a gen. But only one. Which would be a disappointment. So I'll stick with reps.

+1...exactly

I've seen so many older guys with solid gold BCEs and the like running around the ski resort I work at from time to time and once in a while I'll say something like "That's a really beautiful watch you have." They ALL answear without any hesitation " Thanks alot". Thats it. No... "yah picked it up here or got it from so and so". It's just a nice watch to them and it is.

If someone calles you out on a fake the're a AD or a douchebag. Would any of you guys call out a complete stranger? I hope not cause if you would your a douche too.

Here is a classic example of SUPER REPS. Have you ever seen a Lamborghini Countach drive down the street? Did you spot that it was replica? Chances are really good that it was just like that AP Roo you saw on that guy at the mall.

Hell there are alot of woman these days that are replicas!

 

[agb]

Thank you ...

This is a nice thread that i had to read all of it at once

 

[JellyJoe]

MBW/MBK vintage Submariners, Sea Dwellers and 1655 Explorer

 

[fakemaster]

Well reeder. that's a valid question. There are a few that really like the horological aspect of it. I am one of them. But I can count them on one hand probably. The overwhelming reason people buy them are for the purposes you described. Is it wrong? Well as I said I don't judge anyone. What I have a problem with is how so many on the fora get all offended and deny it. I mean seriously what is the big deal about admitting it like you just did? As far as what the watches bring you I would offer this advice which I gave in another thread:

The goal of the ooooverwhelming majority of people coming in is to present an image..not the love of horology. They have no idea how watches work and don't care. They just want to know if their boss will think it's real. But what they don't seem to get is it really comes down to projection not presentation.

Example. When I put on a watch and walk out the door, I have done nothing more than put on a watch and walk out the door. I don't think about it again after that meaning I act like a normal person. I don't check the time unless I need to and if there's a clock on the wall I will look at that first. I don't make it a point to give everyone on the elevator a nice wrist shot. And I don't hand it around at parties. I just don't think about it anymore than I think about my pants. Hell when you're wearing a shirt no one can even see it unless it is some 50mm clown watch that won't fit under the cuff. I assure you if they notice they are thinking how stupid it looks not what brand it is. And I can tell you this as well. If you project yourself that way no one will ask. And if the odd situation comes up where the watch is discussed they will believe it is real. Why? Because YOU are wearing it. To quote myself. The watch does not make the man, the man makes the watch. You may agree or disagree with this view. But as I have said many times I've been wearing reps for 20 years and have never once been asked about my watch. I do not believe that is a coincidence.

The point of the post is that you should be able to command all those things on your own. And using props to achieve that may benefit you in the short term. But it will only carry you so far. I guess the best explanation of what I am talking about is in the Noobguide:

A watch is not an article of clothing. It is an accessory that is meant to compliment the wardrobe which defines your image. You want people to remember you, not your watch. Why? Because it's about projection not presentation. A poser is a poser no matter what they wear. And no watch gen or otherwise can fix that. People will rarely remember a great watch. But they will remember great presence. And they will discuss a bad one. Once that happens they will analyze everything about you...including your fancy timepiece. Bottom line is if you don't look like you can, should or deserve to be wearing it a gen won't even save you.

 

[JellyJoe]

Just provide yourself with things you like, not with things that you suppose will make you liked. If you don't feel liked, no watch will ever cure your disease.


JellyJoe

 

[trailboss99]

A watch is not an article of clothing. It is an accessory that is meant to compliment the wardrobe which defines your image. You want people to remember you, not your watch. Why? Because it's about projection not presentation. A poser is a poser no matter what they wear. And no watch gen or otherwise can fix that. People will rarely remember a great watch. But they will remember great presence. And they will discuss a bad one. Once that happens they will analyze everything about you...including your fancy timepiece. Bottom line is if you don't look like you can, should or deserve to be wearing it a gen won't even save you.

Wise words indeed from the Master of Fakery.


Sean, actualy I prefer www.sexymidgetsthatwilldoanythingforyou.com or www.tenticlesexisnotwrong.com


Col.

 

[glippy01]

Great thread gents as usual on this great site. My two cents on the topic of 1:1 and 1:1 chasers is that for what ever their motivation wheather poser or faker it has improved the quality of reps in the past few years by quantum proportions in my experience as a purchaser of reps. I bought my first one at a flea market in Miami in 1986 and I will tell you by todays standards even the least expensive FG Rollie Presidential on any of the trusted dealers sites blows the doors off the one I bought in 1986. Viva reps and anal 1:1 crowd!