Whats the best bluesy in clone mvmt available?

[JDM180]

Noob has the colour pretty spot on with there wrapped 116613 but not plated sel sides. not sure if still available I dont think it's the same as the 10.5 or whatever they are listing now that is plated. not available with 3135 though.

ARF certainly not a million miles away and has much nicer insert and slightly nicer dial , plus the 3135 option , case is a bit sucky though in comparison and as above the gen insert is still a big difference, you wont really notice the bezel gold itself in real life.

Ive been trying to get spongebob to do my arf insert for my Franken but cant get hold of him, but am excited to see what VSF bring in the future since ones is planned.

 

[Akilles]

The honest truth: problem is the colour of the gold plating doesn't match with Genuine rolex. The clasp fades first. Colour resembles 10k to 14k if that. Since its plated you must take extra care of it from cleaning the bracelet after you wear it to being cautious of desk dives. Its expensive to franken. Gen crystal and datewheel dont matter on this type of replica since it doesn't solve any of the issues above.

it's a replica that has many flaws you need to deal with. When you see a gen 116613 in person, you will hate to look at your replica.

And looking for real gold plating modder is a big no.... will fade very very quickly.

I don't agree with you to 100%. A year back (or maybe two) I posted some comparison pics of my gen and ARF 2 and in some lightning they where very, very, very close, even in gold color and insert.

The insert is a bit brighter that gen especially in bright light. But I mean for 1/20 for the price of a gen I think it's very well made. And for the 99% of the people you meet who don't know about the 116613LB-model from top to toe you could have them fooled.

The gen however is sign. heavier since solid gold weighs about twice as much as steel. But that's not visible.

How long the gold plating will last remains to be seen. I have a quite hard scratch on the clasp but no steel has appeared yet.

Edit: Found my old pics

 

[NFleischer]

That's an impressive picture. I have the ARF V3 TT and it's very good OOB.

 

[Yogibear]

I don't agree with you to 100%. A year back (or maybe two) I posted some comparison pics of my gen and ARF 2 and in some lightning they where very, very, very close, even in gold color and insert.

The insert is a bit brighter that gen especially in bright light. But I mean for 1/20 for the price of a gen I think it's very well made. And for the 99% of the people you meet who don't know about the 116613LB-model from top to toe you could have them fooled.

The gen however is sign. heavier since solid gold weighs about twice as much as steel. But that's not visible.

How long the gold plating will last remains to be seen. I have a quite hard scratch on the clasp but no steel has appeared yet.

Edit: Found my old pics

The pics solidifies my point about the colour being off. ARF is more similar to a 14k look. Gen is just rich proper 18k gold.
I'm not saying dont buy replica 116613, if you got the 116613 bug then ARF v3 is best option... but to not bring up these cons with the replica are no benefit to anyone.
You dont need to know a 116613 model to tell if it's fake or not. Majority of people can tell a difference between 10k to 22k.

I also grew up in Italian communities, where everyone and their dog has an 18k chain and bracelet so I can just be more used to the different colour.

 

[Akilles]

You dont need to know a 116613 model to tell if it's fake or not...

Really. Looking at the pics I just posted, you think that most ot the people in this world would see that ARF v2 or v3 are fake and they would see straight away the next day if you changed to gen instead?

My wife sometimes fails a random test (she does not like when I do them hehe) and she see them both on my wrist a few times a month.

Maybe Italians have a very keen eye for gold or something then, I don't know..

 

[Teddy67]

ARF V3

Belter of a watch mate looks basically identical to gen, is ARF V3 the best for the Submariner 116613 LN black dial? I’ve searched for months but no one seems to go for the 116613 LN, bluesy is the hype