Hi guys, well, moving on is good, but having some points discussed in an objective manner is even better
. It seems to me that some arguments here are more related to the ownership of each piece , which is understandable bc we tend to give more attention to the flaws on the others' ones,
So, please let's see first a video of the new genuine 5711 white and blue, and I'll discuss the points in sequence
So, the comparison of PPF white is well known already, and recent side by side with genuine proves how good it is. Basically, the angle of bevel on bezel and the protruding crown are the evident flaws, given the fact the thinner date font is quite similar to the updated gen ( see video). I'd say that IMHO a gen dial is no longer in need for a project for white one...
For the PPF blue, the colour is really a thing that has to be improved -- it's surely off. Lots of good pics of yours guys show a good colour in certain angles, but in other angles not ( as you can see in the OP's pics - sorry OP ! ). I'd say that if we could get a side by side with gen blue would kill this doubt once and for all. But anyway if you have your PPF blue, watch the video and see how similar or not the dials are.
There's at the end of video a 5712 showing up too. And colour is quite similar to 5711's . I do know for sure that 5712 and 5711 pre 2018 are quite similar colour too, therefore I'd say that 5711's versions ( pre e pos 2018) are quite similar too. There's a pic in the beginning of video with the two versions side by side but lighting is not the best to show the subtle differences or lack thereof.
About PF's points, it seems PF got the bevel better but I cannot say about the other dimensions of case and even bezel -- I'd need to see a good comparison in order to affirm that. But as the thickness is bigger than PPF's, well some dimensions are not correct, right? I reckon that PF was an excellent first attempt for a good 5711 ( excluding the DW font , of course).
BTW, genuine 5711 has indeed a flimsy bracelet ....
Last, PF dial is well regarded bc for most of you guys it looks similar to genuine. Well, IMHO it's far off from truth - sorry for my frank opinion. Let's forget about the indices placement ( huge tell it's a fake watch), also forget about the stock DW :sick-1: ... , hands...., it looks like the colour would be the only good thing, correct?
I have pointed this out already, but let's do it again. See the following post
https://forum.replica-watch.info/forum/patek-philippe/7512902-pf-5711-vs-pp-5712
As you can see, the lack of grey tones makes the PF dial too much electric blue and quite off. Remember -- 5712 is similar colour to 5711, specially on pre 2018's .
So, if you like your PPF or PF that's the most important thing to start with. But if you want to get a piece that is the closest possible to the genuine look, well, we have to wait for those factories to try a bit harder on blue ones. I believe they can do better, for sure. On other hand, the white one V2 is amazing .....
cheers