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Interesting thread from watchbus about AP clone movement
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We all of course hope that the factory can do a miracle and come up with a clone. But I'll allocate my hope to expect for as much as a decorated 7750. If it made the case to be thicker again, I'll pass.
Afetr all, we are not waiting for a perfect clone of the 3120... we all know it's not possible with the same precision.
But we can hope a quite good copy, not 1:1, but something better gen-looking than the usual movements we get since many years....
But we can hope a quite good copy, not 1:1, but something better gen-looking than the usual movements we get since many years....
I really doubt that a perfectly replicated AP escapement is integral to a mechanically functional copy of a 3120 movement. Actually, a LOT of the stuff that's in the gen movement is totally unnecessary to make a fully functional, externally visually-identical replica. Cutting a few of those corners reduces cost enormously but performance only marginally.
I agree. If they use a 3120 clone, they will need to redesign their dials, hands and cases. Plus rerelease older models. Major capital investment.
I think we will not see a full clone of the movement. Let me explain why I decided to: We have all seen the dials on the Grand Prix by J-factory. You see that a date window at the same place, it says that the dial is built for a typical 7750. Probably we will see just a decorative plate for 3126 based on 7750. I would like to be wrong, but I think that will not be a miracle.
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Nobody ever went broke underestimating rep factories. My point isn't to say it's likely, just that it's possible. Clearly making a truly identical movement isn't, but a bare-bones chinese version of the 3120 could be done economically. And any model with an ETA or miyota movement wouldn't require a major case reddesign.
http://watchbus.net/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=2221&extra=page=1
He released new info on the clone movement. The frdt part is about the pam604 which pam lovers are heat in discussion and second part is about meeting jf owner n confirming clone release in April.
His info has always been quite accurate, but I really hope he doesn't misunderstood difference with clone n decorative.
Anyway, we shall see a lot of AP thrown into the m2m market
He released new info on the clone movement. The frdt part is about the pam604 which pam lovers are heat in discussion and second part is about meeting jf owner n confirming clone release in April.
His info has always been quite accurate, but I really hope he doesn't misunderstood difference with clone n decorative.
Anyway, we shall see a lot of AP thrown into the m2m market
I concur with @guru. I would rather see a drop-in replacement ETA clone 2836 or 21J with a plate to transfer seconds to 12, freeze the other subdials and center second hand and have a non-functioning chrono. Honestly I don't care about the chrono functions and don't use them, but this would allow a more reliable movement to be offered for less.
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Agreed as my recent Noob ceramic Diver has a problem after 1 month + or -
I can't anymore change manually the date and I even can't regulate minute and hour, only if I go backwards... WTF
Yes, but it may not solve the typical QC and workmanship issues. The A2892 isn't too good quality and that would have to be paired with the cloned DD module.
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Fully agreed, just dont get it on the clone hype. Its does not bring any more stability to the already risky sec@12 decorated 7750.
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That is a 2 year project and the chrono module is not easy to rep. I don't think there is any ROI for the maker
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Wharever they made we will discover it in 2 monthes and everyone will be free to buy it or not, it will not change anything for them if a bunch of people on the forums disagree with their decisions lol
So have a seat, take a drink and relax. There's tons of good super reps out of AP rep world guys
So have a seat, take a drink and relax. There's tons of good super reps out of AP rep world guys
The maker's thought is: what other watches that can make use of the gen AP movement if we clone it? Nope? Only AP reps can use it?
Then it's not worthwhile at all.
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Then it's not worthwhile at all.
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I wouldn't assume it's because of the new decorated bridges/parts... Remember our regular movements do go DOA sometimes and after a few days of wear ... It's just one of those things with reps I guess, with a good service it might run better haha
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But it happens to me the 1st with this watch, mate.
I had/have several watches modded and none, serviced and none, gens and frankens, but a movt that brokes in less than a month, just this
So......... STRANGE