Absolutely correct. Why the hell I have to give away my hard earned money to some lazy people, who don't want to work? Why should I pay for their food, booze and health care? Sure, we are generous people, and we should help less fortunate. It should be voluntary, not a robbery.
Redistribution of wealth, mandating people to buy things, that they don't want to buy - IS socialism. Wire taping, collecting all information on citizens - IS socialism, if not worse. It remind me USSR.
What? Whose booze are you paying for, where do you even take this crap out of? Social Security, welfare, all those programs were here before you came here, and will be here after you are long gone.
Who are you to barge in here, into this country, and generalize that everyone on government services is lazy. I don't know if you were on any government services or not when you came here (great for you if you weren't), but most people on welfare don't have enough money for basic expenses. You live in some fantasy world where welfare recipients live in mansions and buy booze instead of the food that keeps them from starving.
Its quite laughable actually. I know plenty of Russians, mainly from Brooklyn, they are staunch Republicans and yet their mothers are on SSI, and Medicare.
You can talk all the crap you want about welfare, but I know plenty of people who immigrated here (my parents being two of those people), were originally on govt assistance, and then made it out of poverty, and without govt assistance, it will be much harder for people to move up in life, and just continue a poverty cycle.
Really, I don't understand how you come to a country, one that welcomed you, and gave you the opportunity to be successful, and now you feel that you can deny the same opportunity to others. You come here and then you look down on people who were here before you were.
Taking care of other people is not voluntary. When you come here, you are agreeing to help people who aren't doing as well, and in exchange you get the same back if you find yourself in a bad situation. If you don't like that, there are plenty of other countries in the world. Selfishness is one of the worst qualities one can have.
Wire tapping, and collecting info, started under a Republican president, by the way (Patriot Act, 2002).
Just because one doesn't support Obamacare doesn't mean they don't have any desire to help the less fortunate. Personally, I just don't think involving the government is going to actually help anyone in the long term... If everyone's plans are going down, then who is going to end up paying for it? Money is real, you can't just give things away to no end and forget to make sure that someone can write the check. All these subsidies are based on charging more for young peoples insurance. Young people are not buying insurance.
“That government is best which governs leastâ€
This pretty much sums up my fear with the ACA...
The power of the absence of government.
Want to make just about anything work better? Keep the government as far away from it as possible, then step back and behold the wonderment and goodness.
Here's what you get. It's simple and quick, gives you all the information you need and links to the insurers so you can buy.
Via Chicks on the Right, with a hat tip to my friend Sarah Barnes, San Francisco residents Ning Liang, George Kalogeropoulous and Michael Wasser suspected that HealthCare.gov would have worked just fine if it had been thought through correctly from the start, and built using simple logic and basic common sense. In a few days, with a budget of exactly zero, they proved it. The UK's Daily Mail reports:
'They got it completely backwards in terms of what people want up front,' Liang told CBS News. The programmer continued: 'They want prices and benefits, so that they could make the decision.'
HealthSherpa.com, which is just two weeks old, allows a user to simply input their zip code and view all the health plans available to them.
The website claims: 'The Health Sherpa is a free guide that makes it easier to find and sign up for health insurance under the Affordable Care Act. We only use carefully vetted, publicly available data.'
The programmers are also adding features to the site, such as a section on tax subsidies. But the three 20-year-olds say they worked on the project as a service rather than to make money.
I just tried it, simply inputting my zip code, and the available plans came up instantly. (And I'm working with a bit of a slow connection today thanks to something going on with Verizon. Every other site I try is slow, but this one came right up.)
Now in fairness to the proprietors of HealthGlitch.gov, HealthSherpa doesn't presume to do everything the real one is supposed to do. For example, you can't actually sign up for coverage. But it does provide links to the insurance companies so you can buy directly from them if you want. And maybe that's a better plan anyway. You click a link and you sign up. That is exponentially better than spending hours in ObamaCare web hell.
Remember, they built this thing in days. For free. Meanwhile, the federal government spent three years and $634 million and got a disaster, which they knew wouldn't work days before launch, but launched anyway because political promises overrule common sense at all times.
This is a perfect encapsulation of why everything is worse when government tries to run it. Three 20-year-old dudes with basic competence and a pretty clear idea of what they want to do can create something that works in a few days because they're not concerned with political patronage, politics, insane contracting rules, reporting requirements and the like. They're just concerned with getting the job done.
The government sees a project like this as an excuse to spend hundreds of millions of dollars and keep thousands of people busy, all in the service of creating something that doesn't work. And these are the same people who think they have to run health care, and everything else, because it will be fairer and better if mirco-managed by the "experts."
Maybe we'd be better off if we put 20-year-old dudes in charge of everything. All right. That might be pushing it.
Weipii, I completely agree with you that Healthcare.gov was mishandled. That is a result of bureaucratic bullshit.
My brother worked on the tech team for Obama 2012. In two years they created the same tech systems that gave Obama the edge over Romney.
My brother works at Amazon Web Services now. It is a huge company, with tons of bright people working there. Yet, they can't even get a government contract for something like healthcare.gov, even if they wanted to. It is incredibly complicated to bid and win bids for federal government work. Thats the reason why stuff like this happens, because the government's BS is blocking good companies from getting govt contracts and instead awards them to people who know how to take advantage of the bid system, but aren't really the most qualified.
