Home from work to meet my new '13 Noob "prototype" Submariner.

[botsyboy]

I've had one of these for weeks and the bracelet is excellent and smooth. Bp is crap by comparison in most areas.
I fitted bp hands to mine. It also has gen crystal too.

 

[Aldo69]

Yup bracelet is sorted. Big huge step forward this is. Cheers.
Bots' where did you get the handset from?

 

[mapman57]

A - thanks for the share!

Bots - looks absolutely stunning!

More temptation

 

[alligoat]

 

[alligoat]

AlFru, all you have to do with photobucket is left click on the 4th url on the right that says image, it'll say copied and then you right click and paste it to your post here

watch looks nice btw

 

[andyc]

What's the consensus of opinion on the A3135 that sits in this model?

 

[sub4me]

Very nice subs guys.:sub4me:

 

[Aldo69]

AlFru, all you have to do with photobucket is left click on the 4th url on the right that says image, it'll say copied and then you right click and paste it to your post here

watch looks nice btw

I did that last night, but for some reason it came up like this. Been using photobucket on here for ages. Thanks mate

 

[Aldo69]

What's the consensus of opinion on the A3135 that sits in this model?

Lost as near as damn no time in 24 hours, and is virtually silent, even on the ear. That'll do for me. Not sure how robust it is, time will tell, as this is deffo a keeper.

 

[Luizin2004]

Looks stunning!I thought this one was MODDED when i saw it...Congrats!

 

[botsyboy]

The hands and markers came from a bp sub. Dial is a wm9 v3 which had markers replaced. Dw is excellent and the timekeeping on my A2836(the noob does not have a 3135clone)with 3135 style markings is very good. I wear this watch everyday and very smooth and well finished. I cannot say that about the bp's!

 

[set2374]

The hands and markers came from a bp sub. Dial is a wm9 v3 which had markers replaced. Dw is excellent and the timekeeping on my A2836(the noob does not have a 3135clone)with 3135 style markings is very good. I wear this watch everyday and very smooth and well finished. I cannot say that about the bp's!

Hmmm??? On Ryan's site and in Angus originally discussion of this watch on RG, they both represent that this watch has a SA3135 movement, which is the clone of the 3135 (with the hands moving in the same direction you turn the crown). The A3135 is the 2836, with the "cloned" bridge. It can get confusing, but there is a huge difference (you can tell the difference the moment you go to set the time because the hands move forward by rotating the crown clockwise on the gen 3135, counterclockwise on any ETA or clone eta movement).

As to the earlier question about the quality of the movement the SA3135 (true clone of the 3135), the manufacturer is on either V2 or V3 at the moment. The intial batch was reported to have some issues with the stems breaking--but during disassembly by maybe one or two modders, not in regular use (big difference). This was by no means a widespread problem and many members still have clone 3135's from the first batch (V1) that came in YM's and rep 16610 subs for a more than year now without any issues. In any case, sometime last summer, the stems were upgraded (the Clone 3135 will not accept gen spec stems). I haven't read a complaint about the stems since the upgrade. As for long term reliability, the movement been available since fall 2011, so I guess the jury is still out as to how it does in the long term. However, if and when you ever do need to replace a part on the SA3135, you might have some issues. While the SA3135 looks gen, functions like the gen, has the same dimensions as the gen and as takes a gen dial, gen hands, you it's not actually compatible with gen components. Needless to say, you're local watchsmith is not going to have an SA3135 parts around his workship when that barrel or mainspring goes.

 

[Capt. Obvious]

The hands and markers came from a bp sub. Dial is a wm9 v3 which had markers replaced. Dw is excellent and the timekeeping on my A2836(the noob does not have a 3135clone)with 3135 style markings is very good. I wear this watch everyday and very smooth and well finished. I cannot say that about the bp's!

When you say "I cannot say that about BP", are you talking about the whole watch or just the bracelet?

Also, is this the links to this watch:
http://www.intime.co/product.php?id_product=1052

Or did you go for THIS one:
http://www.intime.co/product.php?id_product=71
http://puretime.co/product/submariner-116610-ln-sa3135-best-edition-v2/

I ask because the second type seems to have skinny hour hand... are they BP instead?
I'm really torn now, was about to WE money over to a TD for a BP sub, but now that I hear about this I wonder...!!!

 

[Aldo69]

"Our" watch is the first link you posted. Fat hour hand aside, the build quality and finish is leaps and bounds ahead of the BP from those I have seen.

 

[set2374]

"Our" watch is the first link you posted. Fat hour hand aside, the build quality and finish is leaps and bounds ahead of the BP from those I have seen.

Shut up already...my wallet can't take it anymore!


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[fortis Persicum]

wear it well. i really like it

 

[Capt. Obvious]

"Our" watch is the first link you posted. Fat hour hand aside, the build quality and finish is leaps and bounds ahead of the BP from those I have seen.

Thanks AlFru, your feedback and pictures have been invaluable! You have actually saved me from blowing $640 on two watches!

As I am unsure about the Sub C I think I will just wait a little longer and just purchase a PAM 359 today, until I really make my mind up about the Sub.

I may even scrap the sub all together and wait to get the gen in october.

 

[Aldo69]

Shut up already...my wallet can't take it anymore!


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Get the big boy pants on, and get the purse out and buy one :hehehe:
:cheers:

 

[Limztf]

That is one hell of a watch A1Fru..and it may just turn out to be my first "non vintage" Rollie!

 

[botsyboy]

Hmmm??? On Ryan's site and in Angus originally discussion of this watch on RG, they both represent that this watch has a SA3135 movement, which is the clone of the 3135 (with the hands moving in the same direction you turn the crown). The A3135 is the 2836, with the "cloned" bridge. It can get confusing, but there is a huge difference (you can tell the difference the moment you go to set the time because the hands move forward by rotating the crown clockwise on the gen 3135, counterclockwise on any ETA or clone eta movement).

As to the earlier question about the quality of the movement the SA3135 (true clone of the 3135), the manufacturer is on either V2 or V3 at the moment. The intial batch was reported to have some issues with the stems breaking--but during disassembly by maybe one or two modders, not in regular use (big difference). This was by no means a widespread problem and many members still have clone 3135's from the first batch (V1) that came in YM's and rep 16610 subs for a more than year now without any issues. In any case, sometime last summer, the stems were upgraded (the Clone 3135 will not accept gen spec stems). I haven't read a complaint about the stems since the upgrade. As for long term reliability, the movement been available since fall 2011, so I guess the jury is still out as to how it does in the long term. However, if and when you ever do need to replace a part on the SA3135, you might have some issues. While the SA3135 looks gen, functions like the gen, has the same dimensions as the gen and as takes a gen dial, gen hands, you it's not actually compatible with gen components. Needless to say, you're local watchsmith is not going to have an SA3135 parts around his workship when that barrel or mainspring goes.

Noob have never used the clone 3135 in their watches and this only has the decorated 2836. It has never been implied that it had the clone neither by Ryan or Angus. A lot of members got confused about that in the rg puretime post and the watch on Ryan's site on the second link is clearly the crap old clone model also seen on puretime's site.
I have owned 2 bp ceramic subs and both look ok from a distance but quality and finish are poor.
This noob prototype is leaps ahead with finish equal to a tc sub.