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Daytona sec@9

f5air

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Well after spending about 12 hours reading lol, seem that the sec@9 is the way to go for daytona watches, at this point i just want to be aware of what kind of issues an asian 7750 with sec@9 can make me go to different direction(daydate with eta).

Love how the daytona looks and feels(lost mine couple of years ago) and i think is time to get one. Im happy that a place like this is for noobs people like me. A lot things to learn.

Also saw on trusted dealers the same watch with a lot of price difference i guess i will need to re-read all the dealers reviews again.

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txrob779

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Welcome to The Darkside....lots and lots and lots of Daytona info to absorb.
 

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I will make your life very easy. Go with something else.

I do not mean to be harsh, but its something all rep Rolex fans are looking for but the fact is they need some sort of new movement to make this watch a reality. The sec at 6 is unreliable and too thick to fit in a gen shaped case.
 

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Huh? Nothing wrong with sec@9 'tona guys. I don't understand the negative comments.

What you meen "worst of both worlds" sneed?
 

f5air

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Huh? Nothing wrong with sec@9 'tona guys. I don't understand the negative comments.

What you meen "worst of both worlds" sneed?

Thats why im trying to find out, i see a lot of different comments about it. I like the daydate but def. Nothing compared to the daytona. At this point i have a gmt II since 2006 without any issues.
 

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Sec@9 have the more reliable movement, but the subdial layout is way off, the subdials are in line with the canon, and the clasp/bracelet/case are styled like sec@6, not the sec@9.

So you're trading movement reliability for a visually very inaccurate watch

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Well the main issue with the 7750 is when it uses the module that moves the seconds register from it's native position at 9 to 6 o'clock as used for the Daytona (or to 12 as in the IWCs and some Hublots). This module is not made by the same company that makes the movement itself and is of an inferior design that adds a lot of drag to the movement resulting in premature failure.

This can be fixed but it involves adding three jewels to support one of the wheels and is not cheap. The basic 7750 is sound if somewhat under lubricated in many reps. Used as is you can get several years service from it but some prefer to have it serviced immediately upon receipt. Personally I don't bother and find that if you take the correct precautions one needs to take even with the gen 7750 (which also can be fragile if mistreated) all is good. The guide to care and feeding of the 7750 can be found here: http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/user-guide-a7750-72197
 

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Huh? Nothing wrong with sec@9 'tona guys. I don't understand the negative comments.

What you meen "worst of both worlds" sneed?

Subdial spacing is very wrong. Case is too thick and rehaut slope is still wrong. So it looks wrong from every angle. At least the sec@6 Daytona looks good if you look at it straight on.

This is a gen 16520:

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Note the close subdial spacing of the Zenith El Primero-derived movement.

This is the commonly recommended sec@9 rep:

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The wrong subdial spacing make the dial look completely wrong.
 

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I disagree sneed, I think THIS is the more mentioned @9....All the same applies but at first glance it looks like a @6 116520. Not that black subdialed Daytona you are posting up. That is the old school [email protected] is the NEW SCHOOL. I think they just swapped the subdial orinentation cause this bad boy is NOT trying to rep a El Primero. No way it is.

And this is what I have posted about over and over and over and guys chiming in about it being, "oh so wrong on every level". I personally think its a solid choice for a Daytona jones....at least initially.

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Well the main issue with the 7750 is when it uses the module that moves the seconds register from it's native position at 9 to 6 o'clock as used for the Daytona (or to 12 as in the IWCs and some Hublots). This module is not made by the same company that makes the movement itself and is of an inferior design that adds a lot of drag to the movement resulting in premature failure.

This can be fixed but it involves adding three jewels to support one of the wheels and is not cheap. The basic 7750 is sound if somewhat under lubricated in many reps. Used as is you can get several years service from it but some prefer to have it serviced immediately upon receipt. Personally I don't bother and find that if you take the correct precautions one needs to take even with the gen 7750 (which also can be fragile if mistreated) all is good. The guide to care and feeding of the 7750 can be found here: http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/user-guide-a7750-72197


14060 or 16610 says that the new 29j 7750, with an upfront dissasembly and reassembly, paying close attention to alignement and set up lives hard and strong. He has a write up about it in his section.
 

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I disagree sneed, I think THIS is the more mentioned @9....All the same applies but at first glance it looks like a @6 116520. Not that black subdialed Daytona you are posting up. That is the old school [email protected] is the NEW SCHOOL. I think they just swapped the subdial orinentation cause this bad boy is NOT trying to rep a El Primero. No way it is.

And this is what I have posted about over and over and over and guys chiming in about it being, "oh so wrong on every level". I personally think its a solid choice for a Daytona jones....at least initially.

So what you're saying is, it's a fantasy model with wrong case profile and wrong subdial spacing... how is that a solid choice?

To each his own I guess, but I really am not a fan of the sec@9 modern Daytona reps. If you want a sec@9 model get a 6263/5!

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When it comes to the modern Daytonas - it boils down to having an accurate sec@6 that will most likely break and become a paper weight or getting an inaccurate dial secs@9. I have the sec@9 model and have to say while it is not accurate in terms of the dial spacing etc, it is a fantastic watch in its own right. The build quality is the best I've seen. The working chronos give the watch a gen feel to it. Only an enthusiast would notice the wrong dial. If you're not out to fool anyone - than this is a great choice. Probably the only chance to have a modern Daytona which works and will saty working.
 

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I've owned several, never had a problem. Some die but many run just fine.

chiming in again - have 12, out of which 1 has died. 120 bucks and a trip to speedy later and it's tip top again. They really are not as scary as everyone makes them out to be, at least in my experience.
 

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Heres a notion... why not have our TD press the watchmakers into making a sec@6 daytona. We did it with the Explorer 2 and Sub-c models. If they make it... we will buy it.
 

f5air

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I disagree sneed, I think THIS is the more mentioned @9....All the same applies but at first glance it looks like a @6 116520. Not that black subdialed Daytona you are posting up. That is the old school [email protected] is the NEW SCHOOL. I think they just swapped the subdial orinentation cause this bad boy is NOT trying to rep a El Primero. No way it is.

And this is what I have posted about over and over and over and guys chiming in about it being, "oh so wrong on every level". I personally think its a solid choice for a Daytona jones....at least initially.

CC27D8CF-0D9A-4017-9429-81811BFCBD86-346-000000BDDA442F3D.jpg
wow thats cool daytona, the distance seems to be more than gen, but i guess you are not getting the watch to a rolex meeting so who cares, is sec@9?. where did u ordered.

i see that the 6263/5 has more space on the gen, maybe thats why people say to get that one?.

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I will make your life very easy. Go with something else.

I do not mean to be harsh, but its something all rep Rolex fans are looking for but the fact is they need some sort of new movement to make this watch a reality. The sec at 6 is unreliable and too thick to fit in a gen shaped case.

Totally agree:cheer: