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Is paying nearly $500 too much for a rep

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Depends on the rep. Would you buy a WM9 Sub for $600?

No, but I bought 3 HBBs and 4 APs and all have AR, a lume job and ETA 7750.

The mod for an HBB with gen ETA and DW is plus 400 USD, so the total watch is around 1k instead of 20 k for a gen. I can easily affort 1k, but not 20k. And the other point is, the cost of a gen HBB is not more then 2 k, so 18k profit is way too much.

Just look at the PAMs, the lastest and greatest releases are 250, great price for a great watch, the gen is 4-5k, the costs are around 600....

Another point is also how much money you make. If you make 50/day, then a 100 $ watch is ok, making 500/day, you can spent 500 on a rep. Making 5k/day, you can buy a gen ( I still would not do it because of the huge amount of profit), I rather buy expansive reps and modd them. That is a lot of fun.


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I rather buy expensive reps and modd them. That is a lot of fun.

I suspect that a great part of the attraction of frankens amongst more sophisticated replica collectors is the tinkering and modding, i.e., the journey, as opposed to the destination.
 

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The answer is one...
If people exist who are willing to give 1000$ for a rep then the prices are fair for them...

Noone makes you buy a 1K rep...
It is our choice...I don't think judging other is right...

So the dealers since they can sell for those prices they will keep upgrading...
I wouldn't give even the 400$ pt aks for his new sub..But for the same bk one i would..

But if i see some reviews of it and be convinced it deserves the money for my i will give...
I believe the new ssd will be in the same range of 400$...Many people are waiting for it and since it has improvements on...Really pricy for a watch that was sold a year before for 188$ don't you think...
The franken upos cost around 900 euros..My friend sold a gen one for 1400 euros..And it has gen case ,movement bracelet..So the rep is way overpriced...
 

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I suspect that a great part of the attraction of frankens amongst more sophisticated replica collectors is the tinkering and modding, i.e., the journey, as opposed to the destination.

This is exactly why guru, R2D4, Q5?, and others spend the funds on the mods (I think), its the fun of the hobby, not the I can fool others with my modified rep.

One more point, of course anyone is free to spend as they see fit. I'm not making fun of those who spend the big dollars on reps, its your choice but to me its not worth it, never has been, probably cause I own gens and have no need to spend that much on reps. On the other hand spending hundreds on a HBB thats costs thousands and thousands, has its benefits, as most of us will never buy a gen watch costing as much and its nice to have something you've always desired.:sub4me:
 

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This is exactly why guru, R2D4, Q5?, and others spend the funds on the mods (I think), its the fun of the hobby, not the I can fool others with my modified rep.

One more point, of course anyone is free to spend as they see fit. I'm not making fun of those who spend the big dollars on reps, its your choice but to me its not worth it, never has been, probably cause I own gens and have no need to spend that much on reps. On the other hand spending hundreds on a HBB thats costs thousands and thousands, has its benefits, as most of us will never buy a gen watch costing as much and its nice to have something you've always desired.:sub4me:
I agree a lot !!!
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Sort of off topic but fun none the less. My buddy sells time shares........or use to before the bust. When he had a particularly stubborn husband, but willing wife, he'd deploy the hard sell.

Pulls the husband aside, but still within earshot of the wife:

Salesman - I know you love your wife right?

Fish - Yup.

Salesman - As much today as the day you married her? (half question/half statement)

Fish - Of course!

Salesman - Now what's that diamond company...........de beers? Don't they say you're supposed to spend 2 month's salary on the engagement ring and 6 months salary on the wedding ring?

Fish - Yeah, but c'mon, I'm not dropping $100K+ on engagement and wedding rings.

Salesman - And I'm not saying you should.......but don't you love her at least a tenth of that?

Fish - ........................**long pause**........................Let's look at the numbers again.

Don't ever fall for what someone says you should pay. Your hobby, your money, your life. Do with it what you will and the naysayers be damned.
 

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I suspect that a great part of the attraction of frankens amongst more sophisticated replica collectors is the tinkering and modding, i.e., the journey, as opposed to the destination.

Yeah, until you decide that the destination is not all that and you want to sell your $1,000 rep. But if it's not about the money, then taking a bath on the sales price should not be a problem for the seller, no?
 

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Yeah, until you decide that the destination is not all that and you want to sell your $1,000 rep. But if it's not about the money, then taking a bath on the sales price should not be a problem for the seller, no?

I agree, but I don't think everyone is enlightened enough to realize that part of the value derived from a franken build is the journey, and that one shouldn't expect to totally recoup the sunken cost in a resale.

For me, I'm just waiting to see when it becomes profitable to buy a preowned gen, and part it out to obsessed franken builders. Just remember you read this business plan here first, and send me a royalty check if you decide to use it. :p
 

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I agree, but I don't think everyone is enlightened enough to realize that part of the value derived from a franken build is the journey, and that one shouldn't expect to totally recoup the sunken cost in a resale.

For me, I'm just waiting to see when it becomes profitable to buy a preowned gen, and part it out to obsessed franken builders. Just remember you read this business plan here first, and send me a royalty check if you decide to use it. :p


he he he. Parting out the franken seems more popular! But I appreciate the tip regardless!

A labor of love is just that. Love of the build, not of cash, or so it seems to me when it comes to reps. These damn Panerais are costing me a fortune! :biglaugh:
 

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sub, it's all about the journey with those PAMs. A journey that costs lots of cash!

Kinda like a one way ticket on the Titanic? Well, maybe the QE II.


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And then there are the straps!



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The best part when modding a 500 usd HBB is when the work is in process. When it is done, you have a nice watch but the best part is over. I got several offers from people for a Franken and sold it, because I could not resist, foe example I sold my fully modded HBB black magic and made about 500 usd. At the moment I have an offer for my AP Barricello, that watch has a gen movement which you can see through the sceleton dial and the gen price is 50k. I still have it but it will leave my house soon. You don't believe how these Franken sell, without advertising.
That is the fun for me, I am already thinking about another nice project.


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Just ran across this thread and though I'd reply to a post from a month ago :)

Sub4me may know of some good quartz AP's..

Actually, Hont has some pretty darn nice quartz AP ROO's in his section for around $100 Bucks.

I picked up a few a while back and posted a "review" here:

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/quartz-ap-photo-comparison-73758

FWIW, As far as I know all 3 quartz models still work perfectly, the 7750 on the other hand, hasn't worked for 5 months, and despite some reasonable effort, I haven't been able to get it properly fixed. (In fairness though, I did drop it on a tile floor...)
 

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Top of the line reps of high end brands (like PP, AP, etc), especially chronos, would cost this much.
 

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I was looking for the Chopard MM XL GT limited edition (which is usually over $100 than the non limited edition colors)

Hi kook
That could help you
Replicamake has the Chopard you want for 328$ without shipments cost
Now, RM is not yet Trusted Dealer and you will not have the RWI support if you have any problem, but it is an opportunity concerning price.
http://www.replicamake88.com/products/CP01010-CHOPARD-GRAN-TURISMO-GTXXL-CHRONO-RUBBER-ASIAN-7750-GREY

Good luck

BTW- I agree the guru's opinions
 

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Aren't these suppositories, meant to be inserted into the person causing one to lose their "chill-ness? "

From $88 to $438, something considerable has to be different .... movement, replication accuracy, build quality. I guess it all comes down to what we value - I bought a Flying B rep for $80 and while I am happy with it, will be selling it ONLY to buy the more accurate $500 version.

Here is my logic - I obsess over things so when the watch arrived, not only was it different from the real one, it was different from the seller's pics (not a big surprise) - the differences would mean NOTHING to every other air breather on the planet, except those who seek to replicate something as faithfully as possible. That's me unfortunately. If the watch had been the same as the seller's pics I would have been happy but to leave OFF the "For Bentley" on a watch that is a Breitling For Bentley, to me is insane. The only watch that replicates to my standard is the more expensive one - and from ALL reviews and reposts, it is spec-bloody-tacular.

Real cost? I have sold a couple of items I had here at home for excellent profit (not watches or pens) therefore the watch's cost is basically covered. If I am honest though, the watch "journey" has cost me far more than the watch itself, but that's part of being in a hobby isn't it? If we started by applying even a lousy $10 per hour to our time, we'd all be screaming if that was all it was about - I have learned ... enjoyed the hunt.... met some great people .... will have a lasting memento of my efforts and a good conversation piece (life is all about the story isn't it?) and if I hadn't bought the more expensive watch, would have neither the watch OR the additional cash because it would have been vacuumed out of my pocket by life anyway.

Certainly, do all you can to get a killer deal .... no question at all with that one ..... But do buy that thing which you really want and get on with having a happy life, or recognise that the thing is an object of your yearning not your earning (see what I did there .... heh God help me) and be happy that there are things to aspire to in life

.... end of a bloody tedious sermon from me!
 

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$500 for a rep? Yes too much money. You'll find some members on this board limit to a set dollar amount per rep. I generally won't spend more than 230 most of the time. But still keeping in mind the value of certain watches too because some yield a much higher amount with 'swiss eta' or clone but the asia 21j movement variant can be found for too much less. So then hence I won't bother with a clone or gen eta movement in that watch.

Most of the more popular and well made reps are less than 300 bucks.