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Franck Muller Crazy Hours

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Hi all,

I am after one these reps, is there much variance [FONT=&quot][/FONT]between the different individuals offering this watch?

What is the most accurate rep and is it possible to get packaging also?

Thanks all
 

MEYER8888

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the long island is really pretty good if you add a nice croco strap, have a lot of felicitations with this on wirst, more than my rolex gmt gen... lol
 

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yes, it does work. If you look at the dial each jump between hours is the same (5 hours). Wife has the pink dial and gets tons of compliments, and the hour jumps exactly on the hour.
 

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Yes, the crazy hours functionality does work on the replica. It seems to be based on a modified 21 jewel asian movement, which is essentially a jumping hour movement, but where the hour hand jumps by 5 hours instead of 1 hour.
 

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yes, it does work. If you look at the dial each jump between hours is the same (5 hours). Wife has the pink dial and gets tons of compliments, and the hour jumps exactly on the hour.

Yes, the crazy hours functionality does work on the replica. It seems to be based on a modified 21 jewel asian movement, which is essentially a jumping hour movement, but where the hour hand jumps by 5 hours instead of 1 hour.


So the gen jumps every hour but the rep jumps only every 5 hours? won't that be a BIG sign that it's a rep?
 

supermanx

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no the gen and rep jump 5 hours... The numbers on the dial are set 5 hours apart.
 

audace

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Oh i see.... so every hour it's jumping right? Hmmm, which dealer would you recommend for the crazy hour? I'm very interested :)

On a side note, what are the flaws with the rep and the gen crazy hour?
 

audace

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Any recommendations of a dealer for a good quality FM crazy hour??
 

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Im after a franck muller, but i want the best quality avaliable. Ive got a cheap crazy hour watch and it works perfectly, but feels abit cheap. Want sometime abit more better quality. Price range $300. How does the 21j and asian 2836 franck mullers compare?
 

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Im after a franck muller, but i want the best quality avaliable. Ive got a cheap crazy hour watch and it works perfectly, but feels abit cheap. Want sometime abit more better quality. Price range $300. How does the 21j and asian 2836 franck mullers compare?

I don't think there is a Frank Muller crazy hours watch with anything but a 21j Asian movement, since it needs to be a jumping hour movement that is modified to jump 5 indices every hour. If you don't care about the crazy hours complication, then you might have more choices.
 

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I don't think there is a Frank Muller crazy hours watch with anything but a 21j Asian movement, since it needs to be a jumping hour movement that is modified to jump 5 indices every hour. If you don't care about the crazy hours complication, then you might have more choices.

As a member pointed out, in order to do the crazy complication, you need a odd shaped gear. So i presume if i get a eta movement and do the same to it, it should hopefully work! :D
 

honeybear

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As a member pointed out, in order to do the crazy complication, you need a odd shaped gear. So i presume if i get a eta movement and do the same to it, it should hopefully work! :D

It's a bit more complicated than that, since you would have to tension the hour hand so it doesn't slip. In a typical hour hand, all the gear teeth are engaged, so there is no opportunity for the hand to slip, but in order to do a jumping hour, there has to be.a gear whose teeth are not always engaged, and when they are disengaged, there must be some way to prevent the hands from moving, so it's not just a matter of replacing one gear.

The complication is conceptually very similar to the date wheel complication or a jumping hours complication, but it would not be an easy modification to an ETA movement. Indeed, if I had to guess the modified ETA would be less reliable than the cheap 21j movement that was built specifically with this complication in mind.
 

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It's a bit more complicated than that, since you would have to tension the hour hand so it doesn't slip. In a typical hour hand, all the gear teeth are engaged, so there is no opportunity for the hand to slip, but in order to do a jumping hour, there has to be.a gear whose teeth are not always engaged, and when they are disengaged, there must be some way to prevent the hands from moving, so it's not just a matter of replacing one gear.

The complication is conceptually very similar to the date wheel complication or a jumping hours complication, but it would not be an easy modification to an ETA movement. Indeed, if I had to guess the modified ETA would be less reliable than the cheap 21j movement that was built specifically with this complication in mind.

Thanks for the detailed info. The original franck muller crazy hours uses a swiss eta 2800 calibre movement. Its most likely a swiss eta 2892 movement. This movement is used in the standard genuine casablanc watches without the crazy hour complication. Here are the pictures i found online as reference:

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Hate to bring this post back from the dead, but the question above of a good place to get a rep crazy hour was never answered. Any suggestions?
 

metworth

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I've been searching all the dealer sites here and RWI and i can't find any.... :-(