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I've clearly had too much Easter egg...

What did I just read?
 

Karabas55

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guy, thats my nighmare.
But is it possible that he bluffed? I mean, do you think it's even realistic to see the difference across the table, from 2-3 meters, or even from 1 meter, when he stays next to your table?
Is it possible that he just "assumed" it, not really saw som flaws?

second question:
to avoid situations like this, I am thinking to look at the simpliest model (or the best replicated ) and ignore the models I like, only sepect from closest to gen ( usually either super popular model so factories master replication or the watch is simple, so not much to replicate ).

considering Rolex, Omega or Hublot.

A lot of models are simple, like Explorer 40 mm, Sub no date, Classic Fusion.
But the problem with them is the glass, or maybe I am too much pedantic. But it seems I see the difference in clarity under angle.

In order to avoid such situations, what would you recommend me, which model?
 

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guy, thats my nighmare.
But is it possible that he bluffed? I mean, do you think it's even realistic to see the difference across the table, from 2-3 meters, or even from 1 meter, when he stays next to your table?
Is it possible that he just "assumed" it, not really saw som flaws?

second question:
to avoid situations like this, I am thinking to look at the simpliest model (or the best replicated ) and ignore the models I like, only sepect from closest to gen ( usually either super popular model so factories master replication or the watch is simple, so not much to replicate ).

considering Rolex, Omega or Hublot.

A lot of models are simple, like Explorer 40 mm, Sub no date, Classic Fusion.
But the problem with them is the glass, or maybe I am too much pedantic. But it seems I see the difference in clarity under angle.

In order to avoid such situations, what would you recommend me, which model?
He's joking. This whole post is just a joke....

If you want some watch that is really hard to tell, let me ask you.

What is your salary? Match the watch with salary. Done. General rule, watch value should not be more than 10% of annual salary. So 50k usd salary? 5k watch. Get a Tudor or Tag or Omega rep instead.

If you are so afraid - don't buy rep. Spend 1k on a gen Seiko or Tag. People who know watches will still respect you and people who don't know watches simply don't care.
 

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guy, thats my nighmare.
But is it possible that he bluffed? I mean, do you think it's even realistic to see the difference across the table, from 2-3 meters, or even from 1 meter, when he stays next to your table?
Is it possible that he just "assumed" it, not really saw som flaws?

second question:
to avoid situations like this, I am thinking to look at the simpliest model (or the best replicated ) and ignore the models I like, only sepect from closest to gen ( usually either super popular model so factories master replication or the watch is simple, so not much to replicate ).

considering Rolex, Omega or Hublot.

A lot of models are simple, like Explorer 40 mm, Sub no date, Classic Fusion.
But the problem with them is the glass, or maybe I am too much pedantic. But it seems I see the difference in clarity under angle.

In order to avoid such situations, what would you recommend me, which model?

guy, thats my nighmare.
But is it possible that he bluffed? I mean, do you think it's even realistic to see the difference across the table, from 2-3 meters, or even from 1 meter, when he stays next to your table?
Is it possible that he just "assumed" it, not really saw som flaws?

second question:
to avoid situations like this, I am thinking to look at the simpliest model (or the best replicated ) and ignore the models I like, only sepect from closest to gen ( usually either super popular model so factories master replication or the watch is simple, so not much to replicate ).

considering Rolex, Omega or Hublot.

A lot of models are simple, like Explorer 40 mm, Sub no date, Classic Fusion.
But the problem with them is the glass, or maybe I am too much pedantic. But it seems I see the difference in clarity under angle.

In order to avoid such situations, what would you recommend me, which model?

 

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He's joking. This whole post is just a joke....

If you want some watch that is really hard to tell, let me ask you.

What is your salary? Match the watch with salary. Done. General rule, watch value should not be more than 10% of annual salary. So 50k usd salary? 5k watch. Get a Tudor or Tag or Omega rep instead.

If you are so afraid - don't buy rep. Spend 1k on a gen Seiko or Tag. People who know watches will still respect you and people who don't know watches simply don't care.

Enter me with my Citizens and Tudors. Just a simple peasant....... ;)
 
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Karabas55

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If you can drop $200-500 on a Citizen and $2-3k on a Tudor, you're doing better than 80% of the world
Or some luck to be born in the right country/family/society/city, not a personal archievements to be doing better then average in the world :)

the easiest way to be doing better is to get born in some Windsor family :)
 

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@xray7 you have a challenger! 😬 I request an equally bullshit but entertaining story!
The challenge is accepted.

Any resemblance to persons living, dead, or merely over-leveraged is coincidental.

And if you think you can prove otherwise, good luck, because personally and professionally, I’ve spent years scrambling timelines, fusing personalities, and laundering the intel on fora and elsewhere.



So there I am last month, marooned at a walnut board-room table in London, negotiating something or other that could bankrupt a small republic.



On my wrist: early 2025 Clean 39 mm Explorer—lovingly replicated stainless utilitarianism with all the scintillation of wet concrete at dusk. Sunlight, what little London can spare now, can’t be bothered to sparkle off its blocky indices.

Two chairs over squats “Drill Bit.” A man who is small, balding, and relentlessly boring—a tool whose only cutting edge is his tone of voice.

He’s strapped into a Submariner I know is a TC: five years ago I caught him winding it clockwise. He’s never forgiven my raised eyebrow and the real vintage Datejust on my wrist, as the watch and I silently judged him.

Today the eyebrow isn’t even necessary.

“Do tell, Old Sport, how do you enjoy the curvature of the end-link on that time-piece?”

The New York acquisition team and their Hamburg lawyers stop discussing debt covenants to watch two grown men joust over lug geometry. I give the Explorer a ponderous squint.

“Sublime, really. Rolex hired a former Concorde-trajectory engineer to perfect the arc—but no one admits it because it ruins the mystique.”

A hiss leaks from Drill Bit; trivia he doesn’t know is kryptonite. He rolls up his cuff.

“You’d appreciate my Sub’s glossier dial—that separator of men and boys in sports Rolexes.”

Before I can retort with something about his mother and a missed flight of stairs in her second trimester, the glass doors sweep open. Our CEO glides in with the North-American delegation—and their lead counsel Ms Wagner, cloaked in couture minimalism. On her wrist: a gilt-dial 1016 Explorer, the sort that makes auction catalogues weep.

Drill Bit half-bows, aiming his TC at a shaft of light. He miscalculates, clubs the water carafe, and launches a perfect tidal crescent across the table, dousing his sleeve. The Sub is now a briny snow globe.

Ms Wagner surveys the puddle, then my watch.

“Two Explorers—one classic, one modern.” Her English is private school Swiss-surgical. “May I?”

I unbuckle and slide the Clean across. She weighs it, checking rehaut depth like a customs officer with an alleged Picasso. Drill Bit looms, droplets pattering from his cuff.

“Yours feels… lighter than mine?”

“Innovation doesn’t always equal improvement,” I shrug, faking confidence.

A kind smile. “Still—excellent dial. Business should be practical.” She hands it back, then flicks her gaze at the dripping Sub: “Yours seems… less amphibious than advertised.”

A tremor of suppressed laughter ripples round the room.

Just then the door bangs again. Adrian—our summer intern, nepotistic carbon copy of his father who will be getting canned the minute the deal is done —bursts in with printouts, freezes, and locks on my wrist.

“Is that the new Clean 39? I’ve been on every wait-list! Dad wore a 14270—before… well—could I just—one wrist-roll? For inspo?”

Thirty to forty-odd million in cross-border financing balances on that teen tremor. The Germans crack first; polite chuckles. I give the Explorer a slow roll. Adrian inhales like it’s church incense, whispers “legend,” and slips out, eyes shimmering.

And now, Toby from Building Security stomps inside, brandishing a handheld meter that squeals like a toddler.

“Magnetic-interference alert under this table. Anything got an unshielded rotor?”

Everyone stares at Drill Bit. The meter screams when it nears his soggy Sub; the seconds hand is doing interpretive dance.

“Sir, building policy requires removal of the object.”

He fumbles; the bezel spins free, the rehaut pops, and the dial plops face-down in the Evian. Silence, then a unified gasp—Germans, Yanks, even Toby.

I lean toward Adrian, who has re-materialised, slack-jawed.

“This, lad, is instant patina.”

Ms Wagner taps her gilt Explorer on the mic.

“Delicious irony,” she muses. “Mine isn’t factory, either—Korean redial, aftermarket hands, 1570 from a parted-out Air-King. Pedigree enough for me.” She winks.

Detonation. Laughter from New York, Hamburg, Zurich, even Toby’s radio. The deal signs itself; Drill Bit hunts silica gel like a truffle pig in laminate flooring.

Wire hits by close of business. That evening Adrian texts a photo: my Clean Explorer ticking beside a faded snapshot of his mum’s 14270, stopped forever at 08:17.

Authenticity? Metallurgy? Curvature?

Today’s lesson is simpler: keep the movement running, keep the gasket dry, and never underestimate the comedic yield of some truth and bullshit finely powdered and mingled together.
 

Karabas55

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He's joking. This whole post is just a joke....

If you want some watch that is really hard to tell, let me ask you.

What is your salary? Match the watch with salary. Done. General rule, watch value should not be more than 10% of annual salary. So 50k usd salary? 5k watch. Get a Tudor or Tag or Omega rep instead.

If you are so afraid - don't buy rep. Spend 1k on a gen Seiko or Tag. People who know watches will still respect you and people who don't know watches simply don't care.
Thanks for the reply. It really helps.
Ok, let's assume, my maximum level is Sub No Date.
But my problem is I cannot find cross-model comparison. Usually its "vsf vs clean". I still dont know what is closer to gen: vsf Explorer or king OP ?

Which practically mean I should choose from following models:
Omega,
Hublot Classic Fusion, BigBang
OP 41mm, Explorer 40 mm, Sub No Date, Airking, DJ41mm.

They are very different and are built by different factories. For instance, on this forum OP reviews shows no VSF and Clean on OP41mm.
I can guess (but not sure) in such a simple watches one of the biggest give-avay will be crystal.

Should I then choose just the factory with the best crystals from these models?

Or are there any of them which are closer to gen then other?
 
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Thanks for the reply. It really helps.
Ok, let's assume, my maximum level is Sub No Date.
But my problem is I cannot find cross-model comparison. Usually its "vsf vs clean". I still dont know what is closer to gen: vsf Explorer or king OP ?

Which practically mean I should choose from following models:
Omega,
Hublot Classic Fusion, BigBang
OP 41mm, Explorer 40 mm, Sub No Date, Airking, DJ41mm.

They are very different and are built by different factories. For instance, on this forum OP reviews shows no VSF and Clean on OP41mm.
I can guess (but not sure) in such a simple watches one of the biggest give-avay will be crystal.

Should I then choose just the factory with the best crystals from these models?

Or are there any of them which are closer to gen then other?
You're over thinking it. Just wear what you want if you have the salary to back it up. How do you know anything when you haven't even handled the fake?

I blame reddit and their nonsense about this crystal shit.
 
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The challenge is accepted.

Any resemblance to persons living, dead, or merely over-leveraged is coincidental.

And if you think you can prove otherwise, good luck, because personally and professionally, I’ve spent years scrambling timelines, fusing personalities, and laundering the intel on fora and elsewhere.



So there I am last month, marooned at a walnut board-room table in London, negotiating something or other that could bankrupt a small republic.



On my wrist: early 2025 Clean 39 mm Explorer—lovingly replicated stainless utilitarianism with all the scintillation of wet concrete at dusk. Sunlight, what little London can spare now, can’t be bothered to sparkle off its blocky indices.

Two chairs over squats “Drill Bit.” A man who is small, balding, and relentlessly boring—a tool whose only cutting edge is his tone of voice.

He’s strapped into a Submariner I know is a TC: five years ago I caught him winding it clockwise. He’s never forgiven my raised eyebrow and the real vintage Datejust on my wrist, as the watch and I silently judged him.

Today the eyebrow isn’t even necessary.

“Do tell, Old Sport, how do you enjoy the curvature of the end-link on that time-piece?”

The New York acquisition team and their Hamburg lawyers stop discussing debt covenants to watch two grown men joust over lug geometry. I give the Explorer a ponderous squint.

“Sublime, really. Rolex hired a former Concorde-trajectory engineer to perfect the arc—but no one admits it because it ruins the mystique.”

A hiss leaks from Drill Bit; trivia he doesn’t know is kryptonite. He rolls up his cuff.

“You’d appreciate my Sub’s glossier dial—that separator of men and boys in sports Rolexes.”

Before I can retort with something about his mother and a missed flight of stairs in her second trimester, the glass doors sweep open. Our CEO glides in with the North-American delegation—and their lead counsel Ms Wagner, cloaked in couture minimalism. On her wrist: a gilt-dial 1016 Explorer, the sort that makes auction catalogues weep.

Drill Bit half-bows, aiming his TC at a shaft of light. He miscalculates, clubs the water carafe, and launches a perfect tidal crescent across the table, dousing his sleeve. The Sub is now a briny snow globe.

Ms Wagner surveys the puddle, then my watch.

“Two Explorers—one classic, one modern.” Her English is private school Swiss-surgical. “May I?”

I unbuckle and slide the Clean across. She weighs it, checking rehaut depth like a customs officer with an alleged Picasso. Drill Bit looms, droplets pattering from his cuff.

“Yours feels… lighter than mine?”

“Innovation doesn’t always equal improvement,” I shrug, faking confidence.

A kind smile. “Still—excellent dial. Business should be practical.” She hands it back, then flicks her gaze at the dripping Sub: “Yours seems… less amphibious than advertised.”

A tremor of suppressed laughter ripples round the room.

Just then the door bangs again. Adrian—our summer intern, nepotistic carbon copy of his father who will be getting canned the minute the deal is done —bursts in with printouts, freezes, and locks on my wrist.

“Is that the new Clean 39? I’ve been on every wait-list! Dad wore a 14270—before… well—could I just—one wrist-roll? For inspo?”

Thirty to forty-odd million in cross-border financing balances on that teen tremor. The Germans crack first; polite chuckles. I give the Explorer a slow roll. Adrian inhales like it’s church incense, whispers “legend,” and slips out, eyes shimmering.

And now, Toby from Building Security stomps inside, brandishing a handheld meter that squeals like a toddler.

“Magnetic-interference alert under this table. Anything got an unshielded rotor?”

Everyone stares at Drill Bit. The meter screams when it nears his soggy Sub; the seconds hand is doing interpretive dance.

“Sir, building policy requires removal of the object.”

He fumbles; the bezel spins free, the rehaut pops, and the dial plops face-down in the Evian. Silence, then a unified gasp—Germans, Yanks, even Toby.

I lean toward Adrian, who has re-materialised, slack-jawed.

“This, lad, is instant patina.”

Ms Wagner taps her gilt Explorer on the mic.

“Delicious irony,” she muses. “Mine isn’t factory, either—Korean redial, aftermarket hands, 1570 from a parted-out Air-King. Pedigree enough for me.” She winks.

Detonation. Laughter from New York, Hamburg, Zurich, even Toby’s radio. The deal signs itself; Drill Bit hunts silica gel like a truffle pig in laminate flooring.

Wire hits by close of business. That evening Adrian texts a photo: my Clean Explorer ticking beside a faded snapshot of his mum’s 14270, stopped forever at 08:17.

Authenticity? Metallurgy? Curvature?

Today’s lesson is simpler: keep the movement running, keep the gasket dry, and never underestimate the comedic yield of some truth and bullshit finely powdered and mingled together.
Thank You for that.... you just made my day! 🤣
 
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