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HOW TO LUME A SANDWICH DIAL. FULL EDITION
- Thread starter alvinado
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Guys this is not by me but I thought I would share in conjunction with my glowinc v10 post. thanks to Navigator..
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By: Navigator
I thought I will write a little how to and this is what came out
This is part 1
First of all we have to remove the Crown guard I think this needs no explanation at all. And also in this pictorial I am using a 183H so there is no CG.
When that is finished we have to open the case back
Then we see in the movement and the movement holders two of them in total one of them is at the 2 o’clock position the other one at the 7 o’clock position.
When we screwed them out we can start to release the stem
Just 1 1/2 turn and you can take out the stem
When this is done take out the movement.
Best would be to put some watch paper over the movement and turn it over with the whole watchcase so that the movement will sit on the watch paper and you can take of the case.
Next step get the stem back in at screw back the stem release screw.
Now we have to get off the hands.
Best would be to set the time to 12 and get them of with a hand remover.
Don’t forget to protect the dial!!!
Same with the second hand same way but I don’t have a pic for that sorry for now
Ok the hands are removed
Now we have to get the dial of.
Here you can see the little screw which are holding the dial to the movement.
Just a half turn to the left and we can get the dial of the movement.
When the dial is of you can see in 99% a dial washer don’t lose the otherwise it could be that the hour wheel will be wobbling up and down between you dial and the movement
How to apart a sandwich dial??
Here we go.
I always warm the dial up with some hot air from the back so that I am 100% sure the glue is not that strong anymore.
Then I just use a knife and work my whole way round the dial.
So that was done both plates are now for themselve
I removed the old lume from the dial because it was crap at all don’t say where it came from but it was so called superlumed mhhhh….
I made a white base coat on the dial and relumed it
After it was dry I checked for a first impression ok that is fine for me.
Now the hands also have to be relumed
First we have to remove the old lume.
I always use some dissolvent from the back applied with oiler ( don’t use to mucht otherwhise the paint of the hands will be gone) and then scratch the old lume from the hands.
When this is finished it has the look like this.
Front view
Back view
Second hand
Now we have to relume them
I relume them from the back like everybody else. I guess everybody has his own technique for this or his own application tools but I use a oiler for this
So the hands are relumed
Front view
Back view
So now we have to get everything back together the other way around maybe I will write up another pictorial in the weekend when I have some spare time.
Final result will look like this
I hope you like the little pictorial.
And any feedback is welcome
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By: Navigator
I thought I will write a little how to and this is what came out
This is part 1
First of all we have to remove the Crown guard I think this needs no explanation at all. And also in this pictorial I am using a 183H so there is no CG.
When that is finished we have to open the case back
Then we see in the movement and the movement holders two of them in total one of them is at the 2 o’clock position the other one at the 7 o’clock position.
When we screwed them out we can start to release the stem
Just 1 1/2 turn and you can take out the stem
When this is done take out the movement.
Best would be to put some watch paper over the movement and turn it over with the whole watchcase so that the movement will sit on the watch paper and you can take of the case.
Next step get the stem back in at screw back the stem release screw.
Now we have to get off the hands.
Best would be to set the time to 12 and get them of with a hand remover.
Don’t forget to protect the dial!!!
Same with the second hand same way but I don’t have a pic for that sorry for now
Ok the hands are removed
Now we have to get the dial of.
Here you can see the little screw which are holding the dial to the movement.
Just a half turn to the left and we can get the dial of the movement.
When the dial is of you can see in 99% a dial washer don’t lose the otherwise it could be that the hour wheel will be wobbling up and down between you dial and the movement
How to apart a sandwich dial??
Here we go.
I always warm the dial up with some hot air from the back so that I am 100% sure the glue is not that strong anymore.
Then I just use a knife and work my whole way round the dial.
So that was done both plates are now for themselve
I removed the old lume from the dial because it was crap at all don’t say where it came from but it was so called superlumed mhhhh….
I made a white base coat on the dial and relumed it
After it was dry I checked for a first impression ok that is fine for me.
Now the hands also have to be relumed
First we have to remove the old lume.
I always use some dissolvent from the back applied with oiler ( don’t use to mucht otherwhise the paint of the hands will be gone) and then scratch the old lume from the hands.
When this is finished it has the look like this.
Front view
Back view
Second hand
Now we have to relume them
I relume them from the back like everybody else. I guess everybody has his own technique for this or his own application tools but I use a oiler for this
So the hands are relumed
Front view
Back view
So now we have to get everything back together the other way around maybe I will write up another pictorial in the weekend when I have some spare time.
Final result will look like this
I hope you like the little pictorial.
And any feedback is welcome
Wow thanks for the Tuts..will try this soon..
soo now the tools for this one are ??
spudge, toothpick, gloves..what else ?
soo now the tools for this one are ??
spudge, toothpick, gloves..what else ?
Alvi, gak you recommend me a binder or vernish?
I have lume powder, but i dont have the binder or varnish.
I've been searching the forum, but there are so many are there.
I have lume powder, but i dont have the binder or varnish.
I've been searching the forum, but there are so many are there.
@ lan61, I use a matt art varnish, but transparent is better supposingly.. check out my other thread, your answer is there..
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WOW Alviando, you are an artist.
I heard the powder is poisonous (not sure how true) and hope you have your mask on.
I takes great patience huh? something I'm lacking :lol:
I heard the powder is poisonous (not sure how true) and hope you have your mask on.
I takes great patience huh? something I'm lacking :lol:
Benben said:WOW Alviando, you are an artist.
I heard the powder is poisonous (not sure how true) and hope you have your mask on.
I takes great patience huh? something I'm lacking :lol:
V10 is not posionous. Tritrium is....
Great job with the write-up, Alvi! I've been meaning to do this for a while, and I wasn't sure how to go about doing the hands.. now I feel alot better about it! Where do you go about purchasing the lume you used?
Where do you go about purchasing the lume you used?Great post...thanks for sharing!
I think if I ever need re-lume done, I'll leave it to the pros!
I think if I ever need re-lume done, I'll leave it to the pros!
alvi, you are my inspiration.
i finally done my actual first lume today, but i forgot to put a white coat on the base. d'oh...i hope everything will turn ok.
It's really hard to get the right composition between the lume and the varnish.
great respect for you and for other lumers
i finally done my actual first lume today, but i forgot to put a white coat on the base. d'oh...i hope everything will turn ok.
It's really hard to get the right composition between the lume and the varnish.
great respect for you and for other lumers
A big special thanks goes out to Alviando!!!
He's super nice to help a newbie like me to lume my watch...!!
Here's the pic. Charged under white light for about 30secs...
taken with compact cam, candle light with macro and 12 sec timer (yes timer.. my hand shakes like a 90yr old)
Before.....
this was charged for about 1-2mins
AFTER!
He's super nice to help a newbie like me to lume my watch...!!
Here's the pic. Charged under white light for about 30secs...
taken with compact cam, candle light with macro and 12 sec timer (yes timer.. my hand shakes like a 90yr old)
Before.....
this was charged for about 1-2mins
AFTER!