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Green Submariner 41 126610 LV review

m5smg2

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Apparently, this factory came out of nowhere. It set its target straight to the all new 2020 SUB 41. When Angus puretime told me there wasn’t much info on this new maker I was a bit skeptical. But I was intrigued by this new factory and their gen comparo photos. Plus I’m not so patient and just had to have a Cermit now. I’m glad I did.

PROS
Case shape and finishing.
Rehaut engraving, sheen, alignment.
Crown and screw down action.
Bezel to case fit, turn action and click sound.
Ceramic insert color looks correct with other HULK inserts I’ve had.
Ceramic insert numeral font depth and fill look very good. Platinum?
Dial detail and print quality.
Date wheel font and print quality. Date perfectly centered.
Hands and hour markers (although my 12 marker slightly crooked).
Crystal is...well, crystal clear.
Cyclops is distortion free with good black hole effect.
A2824 is a proven workhorse, has the same time set direction as the cal. 3235, and can be directly replaced with with a Swiss ETA 2824.
Excellent clasp fit and feel with precise folding and no lateral play.
Uniform brushed finish from case to bracelet to clasp.
Correct SEL recess per gen.
Overall QC with clean dial, hands, date alignment.

CONS
Basically the bracelet. It has a smooth, beautiful satin finish, but the SEL fit at the lugs has tiny gaps and some play. The gap is not noticeable on the wrist, but the SEL has a little play between the lugs. Also, the first bracelet link to the SEL has noticeable movement. This is nit picking and no reason not to buy this superb SUB 41. It’s just compared with ARF raising the bracelet standard so high, the Green bracelet falls short. Thankfully the clasp is good enough to make you forget the SEL on the wrist.

For me the watch feel and sound is as important as the appearance — and that’s not something you can grasp in photos. To my surprise, there is little to fault from this new Green factory. Overall, I’d give this first effort from a new factory 9.5 especially considering the SUB 41 is out only 2 months. Wow. I think I’m not alone saying we can expect great things from the “Green” factory. Respect.

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Thank you for your review of the new green Sub 2020.

The watch looks very good on the photos - and I can't believe that a new factory you've never heard of can make a new model look so good right away.

In my opinion there are other companies behind it that are already known.

But- anyway- congratulations to Kermit. Looks really good for a new model and then V1.
 
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m5smg2 , thank you for your review! Indeed this new maker is very impressive considering it's their first rodeo. When you find time, kindly share with us the measurements of the bracelet. Hoping they copied the original from SEL to the clasp. Thank you in advance, Sir m5smg2!
 
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I can not belive how good the crystal and cyclops are! I just paid about 350$ for gen crystal... And here you can get a really nice rep for about 400$ :D
The Submariner reps are just stunning these days!
Thank you for your review, great pics!
 
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Good work, and thanks for taking the plunge. I'm itching to get this model so will interesting to see what comes out soon from vsf and co

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Beautiful review!

Just a question, i've seen multiple pics and videos of this watch with noob tags and stickers, wasn't Green factory a sub-factory of noob?
Thanks bud. I don’t have a definitive answer to share, sorry. What was hinted is that it is a new branch of an existing maker but which one is not disclosed. I think we can safely assume it’s not Noob, ARF or VSF as they would openly market their release.
 

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hi thank you for your review! The model is a really great representative! I wanted to ask you two things: is it correct that it has the crown engraved on the glass at 6 o'clock? Since it's drawn in the dial, maybe it shouldn't also be on the crystal, right?
 
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hi thank you for your review! The model is a really great representative! I wanted to ask you two things: is it correct that it has the crown engraved on the glass at 6 o'clock? Since it's drawn in the dial, maybe it shouldn't also be on the crystal, right?

Thanks. Yes it’s correct. Rolex still has LEC (laser etched crown) on crystal @ 6. The new crown on dial between the “SWISS MADE” indicates the new cal. 3235 movement.
 

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Thanks bud. I don’t have a definitive answer to share, sorry. What was hinted is that it is a new branch of an existing maker but which one is not disclosed. I think we can safely assume it’s not Noob, ARF or VSF as they would openly market their release.

I see, this is one of the many pics i saw, with noob tags and stickers, plus the bezel cover:



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I see, this is one of the many pics i see, with noob tags and stickers, plus the bezel cover:



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Interesting. Curious if that’s the old 40mm square case that Noob is selling. I have not seen or heard Noob marketing a 1:1 41mm 2020 Sub yet. The Green I received had all Green labels and Green, pouch.
 

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Looks really good. Would better springbars help with the SEL issue?

Any idea how the insert compares to gen (which to my understanding is the same colour as the 116610LV)?

Thanks for the great review, impressive indeed as they seem to be coming from nowhere!
 
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Great review and really nice pictures! That rep doesn't look bad for the first take on a rare piece. More competition's always good to avoid the other factories getting too lazy...
 
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Interesting. Curious if that’s the old 40mm square case that Noob is selling. I have not seen or heard Noob marketing a 1:1 41mm 2020 Sub yet. The Green I received had all Green labels and Green, pouch.

This Is a Fake noob :D


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41 mm fake noob VS Hulk Franken

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Fake Noob

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Measures:

Fake Noob 41 mm
Case length 47 mm
Bezel diameter 40.5 mm
Case thickness (with caseback) 12.3 mm
Glass 30.4 mm
Width Sel 21 mm

Hulk Franken (gen bezel + gen dial + gen glass + gen date)

Case length 47 mm
Bezel diameter 40 mm
Case thickness (with caseback) 12.3 mm
Glass 30.4 mm
Width Sel 20 mm

From this comparison, I decide that this watch was worked on a 40 mm sub 6-digit case and was worked on the lugs (thinned and widened in the Sel) and a bezel was placed with the steel part thicker than half a millimeter (40 , 5)

The size of the ceramic insert, the glass and the dial window in which the DW appears are perfectly compatible with a very normal 40 mm version.

That said, with a change of insert (inserting clean Factory V3) and with replacement of glass and date, this watch could be an acceptable alternative to the classic Hulk.

Good day

C.K.


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Awesome wrote up man! Thank you for the info!


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Another great pictorial mate! Great review!

It sure is very impressive for a brand new factory.

Any chance of wrist shot? ;)
 
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Nice photos! With the VS delayed with no ETA, I'm sure some people that were on the fence will be pulling the trigger after seeing these photos!
 
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