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New Noob Daytona Paul Newman gold

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Can someone tell me whats the green thing on the back is?
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ssouthall6

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I got mine the other day. The plating was incredibly bad, very patchy. Not the fault of the TD, who was superb throughout the process, as it looked like adhesive marks from the stickers in QC.

Anyway, I took a chance and decided to retreat the case. Cleaning did nothing, but gentle polishing with gold balsam revealed they are using some crap on top of their plating up give it the rich 'Rolex' look, probably the same alloy they use with the RG models.

Anyway, the crystal inside was full of marks, stem was bent and the movement dry. Don't expect the greatest quality to be coming out of the factories right now.

Incidentally, I compared the colour to the gen after the polish. Much closer. I guess quality control is not great right now, which is understandable.

My advice is get these things serviced and don't expect too much on the plating. It is clearly thicker than the old days of getting a few wears out of them before they turn yellow, but whatever they are using to achieve the extra durability, most likely nickel mixed with something, I don't know what I'm no expert, they either aren't applying a high level of factory acceptance to, or it's producing some kind of reaction with the adhesive they are using.

The dial is excellent and case shape really nice. But don't be hard on your TD if you have issues, and by all means if you notice what appears to be patchy plating, hit me up and I'll walk you through what to do. It won't help the longevity of your watch but it will at least give it some consistency and make it wearable for a bit.


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I got mine the other day. The plating was incredibly bad, very patchy.

Bummer bro, thanks for sharing. I was just about to pull the trigger on this one but going to give it a pass.

You've hit on something with adhesive reaction. I put some mild adhesive tape on a Noob "gold" bracelet to protect it while I was regulating ithe watch and when I took the tape off the plating came off with it. Wow seriously?

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these watches must to be plate with real gold. So that becomes a nice rep. I took 2 of them in yellow gold, the PN has yet to arrive. Do you know who can do an excellent plating job in europe?
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Bummer bro, thanks for sharing. I was just about to pull the trigger on this one but going to give it a pass.

You've hit on something with adhesive reaction. I put some mild adhesive tape on a Noob "gold" bracelet to protect it while I was regulating ithe watch and when I took the tape off the plating came off with it. Wow seriously?

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Before on the top, after on the bottom bro

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ssouthall6

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BTW you can't get this stuff off with detergent, this is the stuff I used:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HG-436005106-Gold-Shine-Balsam/dp/B001O8O3SW?th=1

I used it in desperation once and have been amazed with it ever since, obviously noob plating is much stronger than was first anticipated, but the consistency of the second layer that they are adding for durability is giving the impression it's worse than it is.

I think most people will look at it and think 'shit plating'...that was my first thought. But I don't like the idea of sending stuff back or the dealer losing money, because we all do this as a hobby, and sometimes you can find unlikely solutions where you don't expect it, and learn something to contribute back to the forum. I'm certainly no expert in this field, the likes of flying-tommy or spongebob probably know much more, but if I can offer something basic to build on, this is it!
 

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This really sucks. I was strongly consindering this watch as my first gold replica. The watch is really beautiful. However after hearing this I will probably go with the 116503. If the gold parts start to fade I am more flexible to find alternatives.
For example I can replace the „gold“ bezel with ceramic bezel (I know this is a fantasy watch – but it would look cool) and replace the braclet with an Oysterflex and Smarty Endlinks.
 

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I don't know why they are doing this to be honest. After I sorted the top layer out it looked much closer to the gen in terms of colour.
 
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Please share more pics of the whole watch, maybe some in daylight?
 

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Crown is gen here, so you can see the colour match

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This was before treating, as you can see, against the gen bezel, pushers and crown the colour is very rich on the rep. I don't know if the ceramic version is darker than the non-ceramic, but anyway, with some treatment, it looks better, and when it starts to fade probably I'll pvd coat it and make it a bamford, or rhodium plate and make it a fantasy two tone


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The pictures above still look a bit patchy, but just moving in the light 180 degrees and you can't see it. I don't know, maybe limitation of the camera on the iPhone 8


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This really sucks. I was strongly consindering this watch as my first gold replica. The watch is really beautiful. However after hearing this I will probably go with the 116503. If the gold parts start to fade I am more flexible to find alternatives.
For example I can replace the „gold“ bezel with ceramic bezel (I know this is a fantasy watch – but it would look cool) and replace the braclet with an Oysterflex and Smarty Endlinks.

Yeah this is my plan. Smarty end links are also wrong colour to the gen btw :D

Whilst this all sounds a bit negative about the noob, one thing it does confirm is they are essentially 'double plating'. In the old days this would be erroneously termed 'gold wrapped'. I actually quite like it now, but I've spotted a few bits I need to redo so I'll take it apart again when I get time, just a lot of work on at the moment


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Yeah this is my plan. Smarty end links are also wrong colour to the gen btw :D

Whilst this all sounds a bit negative about the noob, one thing it does confirm is they are essentially 'double plating'. In the old days this would be erroneously termed 'gold wrapped'. I actually quite like it now, but I've spotted a few bits I need to redo so I'll take it apart again when I get time, just a lot of work on at the moment


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Yes gold color of the endlinks would most likely not be the same as the bezel and pushers. Therefore I would use the stainless steel ones I have at home ;). Fit on a 116520 case is ok, whilst not perfect. Since the 116503 case is basically a 116500/116520 case this should work. Or I will put an ARF Stainless Steel bracelet on it...

So many options to play with and turn this into a great fantasy model:D
 
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Nice! I really wanted this one but the gold plating issue is prob put this on hold...