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Franken 116710LN Build w/ SH3185 Hybrid

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After dealing with the CHS Craptastic Movement for several months now trying to figure out how to make it more reliable, and finding that replacing the majority of the guts with ETA 2824/2836 guts seems to at least get it to run great, I was bouncing back and forth between getting a Rolex 3186 or creating my own SH3185. In the end, I enjoy tinkering more than assembling, so building a hybrid SH3185 won out for my GMT 116710LN Franken.
Build consists of
  • Gen Bezel (Assembly and insert)
  • Gen Chromolight Dial
  • Gen Chromolight Hands
  • Gen Datedisc
  • Gen Xtal
  • Gen Crown
  • SH3185
  • ARF 904l Bracelet
  • Noob Case
For the conversion, you need roughly $600-650 worth of Rolex parts and of course, an SH3135. Below is the Rolex Parts list.
Part NumberDescription
B3155-335-Y1Minute Pinion w/ Cannon Pinion
B3155-360-G1Second Wheel
B3175-260-Y1Minute Wheel 24hr
B3185-268-L1Keyless Works Cover Plate
B3185-284-Y1Hour Wheel 12hr
B3185-600-K1Seating for Date Indicator
B3185-614-Y1Date Jumper
B3185-623-Y1Finger for Date
B3185-625-Y1Date Wheel Mounted
B3185-660-Y1Jumping Hours Module
B3185-662-Y1Corrector Wheel
B3185-670-Y1Intermediate Date Wheel

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And now on to the fun stuff
To start, I will show you 2 spots you need to modify on the main plate. The Jumping Hours Module sits in here and these 2 spots need to be filed down to allow it to sit flush and move freely. I used a couple small files to do this.
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Some pics while assembling the movement. What I did was place the SH3135 Parts I was removing in a line in order that I took them off. I then placed the Rolex Parts I was replacing them with right below them so I didn’t miss a step or use the wrong part. If you’ve taken these apart before, its pretty easy to figure out what goes where.
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And here is the finished movement with the Gen Date Disc
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With Gen Hands and Dial Installed
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Test fit into the case. The Movement is a little loose in the case, so I had to use longer tabs to hold it in place and centered in the case.
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A couple pics of the final product. The Crown Height of the SH3185 sits a touch lower than the 2836 CHS movement that comes in these. It isn’t enough to affect performance, but it is something to be aware of. About less than .5mm.
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And some glamour shots
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So far, the movement is running great. The jumping hours module hasn’t had any issues, I had to go from Date 13 to Date 3, and the movement itself averages ~+4s/d

All in all, a happy medium between the unreliable CHS movement and the $2k Rolex 3186.
Now on to the next project.
 

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Wow! Great work, there! Us lesser mortals can only drool! Congratulations and enjoy your awesome build, mate!
 

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Really a great work, I like it very much and is in my mind by some time... I'm undecided if go for a 5 digit or a 6...

The crown is the 704, same as the sub?
 

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Wow, that’s amazing man. I would have never thought about the opportunity to make a SH3135 to 3185. Crazy guy :)
 

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thats amazing work brother! Quick question....I thought crown height on sh3185 was the same as sh3135? Am I missing something here? Isnt the stem to plate size untouched and the height the same? If so, would a 3135 v6s be a perfect fit?

Thanks and amazing work bro!
 

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Â* thats amazing work brother! Quick question....I thought crown height on sh3185 was the same as sh3135? Am I missing something here? Isnt the stem to plate size untouched and the height the same? If so, would a 3135 v6s be a perfect fit?

Thanks and amazing work bro!

total height of the 3135 is 6mm and the 3185 is 6.4mm
 

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total height of the 3135 is 6mm and the 3185 is 6.4mm

Ok, maybe im confused or Im not explaining well..I dont mean movement thickness, Im talking crown height position relative to the botton of the caseback when the watch is put together..I always thought the 3186 crown position was at the same place relative to yhe cb and cg as the 3135? In side profile shots of Gen they look very, very similar..Am I making any sense?
 

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Ok, maybe im confused or Im not explaining well..I dont mean movement thickness, Im talking crown height position relative to the botton of the caseback when the watch is put together..I always thought the 3186 crown position was at the same place relative to yhe cb and cg as the 3135? In side profile shots of Gen they look very, very similar..Am I making any sense?

stem from the back of the movement, no difference 3135 vs 3185. However from face of dial to stem, slightly thicker on the 3185. This is why it works in the 2836 cases and the 3135 doesn't.
 

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Want me to tell you how to fix your crown?
Or would you rather have that glaring flaw?

Sweet dreams
 

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I've been thinking about doing a GMT Master II build (BLNR most likely) and have been hung up on which way to go with the movement - this gives me ideas. Excellent job and an amazing end result.
 

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xj4sonx Thread crapping smh Raddave



Not thread crapping, it is a legitimate offer

The issue here is how to fix the dimensions to be correct.

The answer in simple because one dimension is too big. The simple answer is to reduce the dimension that is too big. The missing part is exactly how to do this.

He already has access to the right tools and time...

Overall it is a very nice build here, this would fix the one obvious flaw.
 

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lol hardley a thread crap , this is not a sales thread , this is where we discuss stuff , unless it turns into an attack or ppl get rude and start fighting , theres nothing wrong with a difference of opinion at all ..
 

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lol hardley a thread crap , this is not a sales thread , this is where we discuss stuff , unless it turns into an attack or ppl get rude and start fighting , theres nothing wrong with a difference of opinion at all ..

he might have thought this was my sales thread for this watch. either way, like you said, not too bad