I want to start by saying both these watches are amazingly good watches and amazingly good reps. I don't think it gets much better than this OOTB.
They are Reps so they both have flaws. They have different flaws and the one you may choose to own will depend on what you are more prepared to put up with. As usual it would be lovely to combine the best of both into one watch, but as we know well, this doesn't happen.
I would like also to add that these photos are full frame, intensely sharp and massively cropped. Most of what you see on both watches , you would never see with the naked eye.
Photos as intensely sharp as these would make would make Megan Fox's ass look fat spotty and downright ugly.
The JF is Red Grape dial The BP is Grey dial
Both have the clone movement . The JF being the SH and the BP is the SA. I like both these movements. I think in reality there isn't much to choose between them . The SH will take Gen parts The SA won't. That said it is not too expensive to replace an SA I bought and SA 3135 for $200 shipped.
So the overall face on look.
You will see that they are both very presentable and Gen like . Nice dials nice print and great hands
The BP has a slightly wider ( by a few microns) Bezel, which is less gen like. The JF has a fatter crown, which is also less gen like
You can see the crowns here. You will also see the JF rehaut is way wokier, and the lumed marker is less well finished on the JF.
The JF dial and hand set is great, the colour is good the print is good, the Rehaut is woky
The BP dial and hand set, for my money is overall better finished and the Rehaut is straighter
SELs. I have many obsessions, SELs are not one of them. I think they vary from watch to watch, Gen and Rep, and vary more when the spring bars get a bit worn.
First the JF
Now the BP which I think wins
Rehaut engraving
Incredible irony here . The JF engraving is amazing on a woky rehaut, the BP engraving is scruffy on a great rehaut.
JF
BP
Clasp. The JF is cheap and flimsy and doesn't shut well. The BP is fabulous, BP wins by a mile here
BP on left
While we are on clasps. The BP has that great fold over micro adjustment (Not present on the gen)
The JF doesn't
Bracelet
The BP is way better in feel and look. I am convinced that BP are using higher quality steel. There is some variation in the quality of 316 used in reps. The BP bracelet feels totally gen like
OK so some conclusions. These are my conclusions and I am sure you will draw your own. There are people here with far more experience than me and much better eyes.
Pros and Cons
JF
Pro
Bezel correct
Better movement in some views
Better Rehaut engraving
Lume colour closer to the correct green
Cons
Dial hands and markers, less well finished
Crown too fat
Bracelet a bit light and flimsy as is clasp
BP
Pro
Better overall finish
Straight rehaut
Better dial and hand set finish
More correct crown
Much better Bracelet and clasp
Cons
Bezel a bit too wide
Rehaut engraving a bit scruffy
SA rather than SH movement
Lume colour too blueish
I weighed both watches.
The BP 133 G
The JF 129 G
I hope this is useful to people considering either of these watches. But remember it is only one persons opinion.
Please feel free to disagree and say what you think, I ditched my ego way back in life.
Which would I buy?
Too close to call so I bought both
They are Reps so they both have flaws. They have different flaws and the one you may choose to own will depend on what you are more prepared to put up with. As usual it would be lovely to combine the best of both into one watch, but as we know well, this doesn't happen.
I would like also to add that these photos are full frame, intensely sharp and massively cropped. Most of what you see on both watches , you would never see with the naked eye.
Photos as intensely sharp as these would make would make Megan Fox's ass look fat spotty and downright ugly.
The JF is Red Grape dial The BP is Grey dial
Both have the clone movement . The JF being the SH and the BP is the SA. I like both these movements. I think in reality there isn't much to choose between them . The SH will take Gen parts The SA won't. That said it is not too expensive to replace an SA I bought and SA 3135 for $200 shipped.
So the overall face on look.
You will see that they are both very presentable and Gen like . Nice dials nice print and great hands
The BP has a slightly wider ( by a few microns) Bezel, which is less gen like. The JF has a fatter crown, which is also less gen like
You can see the crowns here. You will also see the JF rehaut is way wokier, and the lumed marker is less well finished on the JF.
The JF dial and hand set is great, the colour is good the print is good, the Rehaut is woky
The BP dial and hand set, for my money is overall better finished and the Rehaut is straighter
SELs. I have many obsessions, SELs are not one of them. I think they vary from watch to watch, Gen and Rep, and vary more when the spring bars get a bit worn.
First the JF
Now the BP which I think wins
Rehaut engraving
Incredible irony here . The JF engraving is amazing on a woky rehaut, the BP engraving is scruffy on a great rehaut.
JF
BP
Clasp. The JF is cheap and flimsy and doesn't shut well. The BP is fabulous, BP wins by a mile here
BP on left
While we are on clasps. The BP has that great fold over micro adjustment (Not present on the gen)
The JF doesn't
Bracelet
The BP is way better in feel and look. I am convinced that BP are using higher quality steel. There is some variation in the quality of 316 used in reps. The BP bracelet feels totally gen like
OK so some conclusions. These are my conclusions and I am sure you will draw your own. There are people here with far more experience than me and much better eyes.
Pros and Cons
JF
Pro
Bezel correct
Better movement in some views
Better Rehaut engraving
Lume colour closer to the correct green
Cons
Dial hands and markers, less well finished
Crown too fat
Bracelet a bit light and flimsy as is clasp
BP
Pro
Better overall finish
Straight rehaut
Better dial and hand set finish
More correct crown
Much better Bracelet and clasp
Cons
Bezel a bit too wide
Rehaut engraving a bit scruffy
SA rather than SH movement
Lume colour too blueish
I weighed both watches.
The BP 133 G
The JF 129 G
I hope this is useful to people considering either of these watches. But remember it is only one persons opinion.
Please feel free to disagree and say what you think, I ditched my ego way back in life.
Which would I buy?
Too close to call so I bought both
