Sub 2836 vs 3135

[indigomike]

Hi all,

I would like to be educated on this topic. I have read extensively about the V7 subs, the 2836 and 3135. Claims have stated that the 3135 was the closest to the Gen. This was due to back thickness, crown guards etc.

However, I have also read that it's a crap shoot and the 3135 movement is unreliable and hard to repair. Seems the 2836 was easier to work on and was way more reliable as movements go.

Opinions please.

My other question is, if the 2836 is modeled after the Gen Rolex movement, why is the back thicker than the Gen? Wouldn't it be the same fit. I'm new so if this is a dumb question I'm sorry.

 

[pokerhard]

My opinion is SH3135>2836>SA3135


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[indigomike]

Thanks!

So if the SH3135 is not avalible, the 2836 is a more reliable movement than the 3135.

Can you find parts and easily have a 2836 repaired if something shoots craps

 

[Rx4Time]

The 3135 can accept a gen dial and hands, but is questionable in reliability. I choose the 2836 from a reliability and longetivity perspective for my franken subc.

 

[Rx4Time]

Options are a reliable 2836 or SA 3135 and put $600 on the side for when the movement dies to install a serviced Yuki.

 

[muiramas]

The 2836 is not based on the Rolex movement - it is a chinese clone of an ETA movement.

This means is is readily and cheaply serviceable.

The 3135 movement, regardless of origin, is less readily servicable, and more expensive to service if you find someone who can work on it.

The 3135 is a copy of the Rolex movement, and therefore the case is closer to the real deal. To some the difference is dramatic - for the other 98% is is not noticable.

 

[Raddave]

2836 for me too

 

[pokerhard]

Thanks!

So if the SH3135 is not avalible, the 2836 is a more reliable movement than the 3135.

Can you find parts and easily have a 2836 repaired if something shoots craps

To clarify the SH3135 is a clone of the real Rolex 3135 and most things can be repaired with Rolex parts if things go bad. The 2836 is eta or an eta clone and is very easy to find parts for. The SA3135 well you're basically screwed if things go wrong.


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[eswilly]

I've always gone 2836 thinking I don't know enough about getting a yuki. My thoughts have changed over the years but I'm still comfortable with the 2836.


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[indigomike]

Options are a reliable 2836 or SA 3135 and put $600 on the side for when the movement dies to install a serviced Yuki.

Woah! A Yuki movement is $600.00????

 

[indigomike]

Thank you all! This is great info.

 

[Nikita75015]

Crown height on a2836 is crap!


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[Thrasher]

A3135 is a 2836 made to look like a 3135. forget it!
SA3135 is a peice of crap.
SH3135 and Yuki3135 are the same and take 95% gen parts.
A2836/A2824/TC2824 is a copy of swiss ETA 2836 or ETA 2824. Asian clones and Swiss Etas are excellent but not perfect by any stretch.
The Yuki 3135 or SH 3135 can be serviced or purchased through Misiekped or Tickleshoes both brilliant watch smiths.
Lots of JF watches come with SH/Yuki 3135 keep the movement ditch the rest....well not always.

You need to read a lot and do research

 

[timto1388]

Its really interesting to read all the comments , well done guys


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[muiramas]

Crown height on a2836 is crap!


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this sort of crap is all you ever say. Stop drive by shit posting.

 

[Nikita75015]

this sort of crap is all you ever say. Stop drive by shit posting.

Crown height and shape on a2836 case is crap that's a fact that's all!


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[FastPaced]

I have 3 SA 3135 Reps and also had a yuki. My SA3135 v2 SD4k is unstoppable. I think all the horror stories of the SA3135 breaking were from the thin stem. That problem has been fixed on newer SA3135. If you read the notes on PT website under certain watches, it will say if the SA3135 has the thicker stem. One note, I had my SD4k serviced as soon as I got it- I think a service when the watch is new definitely goes a long way. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Markwatchlover]

I have 3 SA 3135 Reps and also had a yuki. My SA3135 v2 SD4k is unstoppable. I think all the horror stories of the SA3135 breaking were from the thin stem. That problem has been fixed on newer SA3135. If you read the notes on PT website under certain watches, it will say if the SA3135 has the thicker stem. One note, I had my SD4k serviced as soon as I got it- I think a service when the watch is new definitely goes a long way. Just my 2 cents.

Hi there ,
I am really looking for rolex v6s 3135 , if you are interested in selling yours please reply

 

[Stuvetjee]

A3135 is a 2836 made to look like a 3135. forget it!
SA3135 is a peice of crap.
SH3135 and Yuki3135 are the same and take 95% gen parts.
A2836/A2824/TC2824 is a copy of swiss ETA 2836 or ETA 2824. Asian clones and Swiss Etas are excellent but not perfect by any stretch.
The Yuki 3135 or SH 3135 can be serviced or purchased through Misiekped or Tickleshoes both brilliant watch smiths.
Lots of JF watches come with SH/Yuki 3135 keep the movement ditch the rest....well not always.

You need to read a lot and do research

^this

 

[Hinclimincli]

The 2836/24 is thicker than the 3135 (in any of its variants), hence the back is slightly thicker and the crown sits deeper in the case (if you look from the front, hope it makes sense).

However, we talk about mms and almost impossible to notice unless you have a gen side by side.

Regarding longevity of the movements, the 3135 rarely accept gen parts unless you are talking about a Yuki/SH3135 and even in that case you can't be 100% sure that you will be able to put gen parts.

Regarding the SA3135, the list of weak parts in the initial batches is so long that I'd rather not get anywhere near one of them. It's correct that the stem tended to broke, and that seems to be sorted, but the reverse wheels are crap and can cause trouble.

On the other side, the 2836/24 has been there since the 60's so you can imagine the amount of spare parts available. The specs are really good and once regulated it can be very reliable (many high end watches have this model inside, or slight variations -talking about Breitling, Longines, Tudor, and some Omegas-). Plus, its design is quite good and simple, making it very fool-proof, so almost any capable watch smith can perform a full service on it.

Hence: ETA for me. Either Asian clone, gen ETA or Sellita, I'm not picky.