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    #76
    Originally posted by jcguo0516 View Post
    lol yep, basically government is short of funds, and it's close to CNY, this is their way of collecting taxes/funds, owners just need to pay their dues, and they will be able to go back to work

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    Pretty routine and part of the charade like it has always been for years. They will be back again.


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    Time for the officers to get the 红包钱 I get it


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      #77
      Originally posted by RonP View Post

      People are warned for repitition on this forum but you must have written this same message well over 100 times. We get it, no need to write it again and again.

      The vast majority on this forum do not have the means to drop £20,000 on a watch without it making a significant dent on their savings and lifestyle. This is why they are most likely on a replica forum in the first place.

      They just want as few flaws as possible, nothing wrong with that and with time better replicas are produced with fewer flaws.
      some reps need extra Long patience , maker release version after version , they not interest how it close to gen 100% , looking for money and gains and you see how hard conditions rep makers in south china, i know no reason for v10 and maker can make lume perfect snow white with better outlines , but there’s maybe v10s or v11 fixing some flaw , that’s ensure money gain for maker and more sales .


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        #78
        Originally posted by legend View Post

        Pretty routine and part of the charade like it has always been for years. They will be back again.


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        Indeed. But it will take time and depending on owner’s financials, it might be a very different factory in terms of innovation and quality. China is not known to be soft on enforcing laws. Look at Noob, took them years to get back on their feet and they are still playing tricks (crappy movements) to keep margin high.

        Competition in the rep market seems to be fierce and I won’t be surprised if this isn’t related to the taxman... but with delation


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          #79
          Originally posted by legend View Post
          Time for the officers to get the 红包钱 I get it


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            #80
            depending some members, it’s look very big issue with ZF maker , it’s good we have JF , now JF plz release v11.


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              #81
              Originally posted by Swiss_goupil View Post

              Indeed. But it will take time and depending on owner’s financials, it might be a very different factory in terms of innovation and quality. China is not known to be soft on enforcing laws. Look at Noob, took them years to get back on their feet and they are still playing tricks (crappy movements) to keep margin high.

              Competition in the rep market seems to be fierce and I won’t be surprised if this isn’t related to the taxman... but with delation


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              Just before the lunar new year, it is almost customary for the rep factories to get raided, and the end goal is always about pay offs.

              I agree with you that we will likely never know the truth behind specific raids and arrests other than the fact that they do happen. We have to leave the complications and quandaries of the Chinese system to them and we can only wait for them to come back into business.


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                #82
                Originally posted by QueTip View Post
                Where's that rule? You must've read rules even I'm not aware of. People are being warned if they are repeating an offence to the rules but not for stating facts. And I don't see anything else than that there.
                I remember a user, I think his name is Accord who would often go on about how he owns genuine Pateks and APs in every other post he wrote and he was roasted for that here. We got his point the first few times he said it but there was no need for him to make that same point over and over again in several different threads. As I recall he was warned about making similar posts in the future.

                Again, most people here do not have the means to spend £20 - 30k on a watch so telling them to save up for the genuine is pretty useless, maybe for a £4000 Omega it's kinda ok but not a £30,000 AP.

                Likewise everyone knows their watch is not gen and never will be, so no need to keep saying that as well. If they want to feel better by having a watch as close to gen as possible and maybe even live in a fantasy that they are wearing the real thing, there is nothing wrong with that.

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                  #83
                  depending some members, it’s look very big issue with ZF maker , it’s good we have JF , now JF plz release v11.


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                    #84
                    Originally posted by RonP View Post

                    As I recall he was warned about making similar posts in the future.
                    You’re recalling wrong. Accord received the warnings issued for other reasons that have now been rectified and are all sorted.

                    If you want to continue this discussion, take it to PM please. This thread is not the place.


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                      #85
                      JF got raided today, wondering if a v11 will see the light...
                      WTB:

                      -PAM 024 & 025 / VSF 213
                      -JF Black AP RO 33mm

                      -JF AP ROO Sachin Tendulkar, Jarno Trulli, 57th Street, Black Rubberclad... anything else, offers?

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                        #86
                        Originally posted by RonP View Post

                        I remember a user, I think his name is Accord who would often go on about how he owns genuine Pateks and APs in every other post he wrote and he was roasted for that here. We got his point the first few times he said it but there was no need for him to make that same point over and over again in several different threads. As I recall he was warned about making similar posts in the future.

                        Again, most people here do not have the means to spend £20 - 30k on a watch so telling them to save up for the genuine is pretty useless, maybe for a £4000 Omega it's kinda ok but not a £30,000 AP.

                        Likewise everyone knows their watch is not gen and never will be, so no need to keep saying that as well. If they want to feel better by having a watch as close to gen as possible and maybe even live in a fantasy that they are wearing the real thing, there is nothing wrong with that.
                        To stay relevant to the topic, I think the ZF diver is a pretty good replica for less than $500. My point is that people should be more grateful for such releases, rather than pick on flaws and "look forward to the release of the next version". As long as its a rep, V1 to V9million will be flawed and prospective buyers can choose to accept or reject certain features of the release, and decide if they want to buy the watch. I agree with you that there is nothing wrong with owners wanting their watches to look a certain way, or even wanting their watches to look as close as possible to the gen. But when such views are presented on an open forum like this, it allows everyone to chime in with their eclectic and sometimes opposing opinions. I respect your right to respond to my posts in any manner you wish, but do not interfere with my right to respond to others and you. I am not going to be worried or change my opinion just because you don't like it. I do not really care about garnering the popular vote or going with the masses. I will call it like I see it and you can either add me to the ignore list, report my posts, or just disregard what I write. It does not affect me by an iota. I always enjoy being the lone one on the other side of the room, away from the huddled mass. There is usually more space there lol.

                        Acknowledgement and acceptance of flaws are salient aspects of the hobby and there is nothing wrong with whatever you said. But when grievances about reps are aired publicly, not everyone has to agree with them. You complain about my "repetition", but what I see is a repetition on a much larger scale, that members never seem to think that the reps are good enough, and always seem to think that the next version will be better. That thinking has been proven to be a double fallacy: There may not always be a next version and the next version may not always be better all round. If so, why not just get the gen then? Don't wish to spend the money? Then guess what, the choices are then limited. They have to live with what they cannot change, or look for a modder to try to fix what irks them. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, but if the opinion is shared openly, then they must also allow for differing responses to the post. What you are asking me not to comment on are guys who drive a toyota but want to turn it into a ferrari, and complaining about this or that aspect is off. That is his right yes, but he should keep the problem of his limitation of choices to himself and solve it quietly rather than whine about it. Do this on a car forum and you will invariably get the guy who tells you to go get that damned ferrari instead.

                        In this forum, I am that guy.
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                          #87
                          Totally agree. We are at that point in the rep game where The differences with respect to gen are academic (it wasn’t always this way).

                          In 2020/21 there really isn’t anything useful to gain from researching gen vs rep pics on chrono24, to establish some silly residual flaw that no grown man should know or care about. That is how you will ruin the hobby for yourself and other paranoid members that think they’ll get called out by the bus driver.

                          Reps are reps and gens are gens but fortunately reps are very good now (imo) and we should just enjoy them for what they are.....exceptionally well made rep for $400




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                            #88
                            Originally posted by Swiss_goupil View Post

                            Indeed. But it will take time and depending on owner’s financials, it might be a very different factory in terms of innovation and quality. China is not known to be soft on enforcing laws. Look at Noob, took them years to get back on their feet and they are still playing tricks (crappy movements) to keep margin high.

                            Competition in the rep market seems to be fierce and I won’t be surprised if this isn’t related to the taxman... but with delation


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                            Hmm You think JF called the taxman on ZF? They are angry on ZF for making better Divers?


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                              #89
                              Such a shame... I placed an order for the ZF V10 15703 but I guess its going to be a refund.

                              If anyone received theirs but but don't like it - PM me!
                              WTB:
                              PAM225 - PAM187 - PAM214 - PAM064 - PAM192 - PAM087 - PAM086

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Woundup View Post
                                Such a shame... I placed an order for the ZF V10 15703 but I guess its going to be a refund.

                                If anyone received theirs but but don't like it - PM me!
                                Same goes for me, I ordered the ZF AP 15500 two days ago, I can only hope there's some stock lying around or that ZF will be back in the next few weeks otherwise it's going to be a refund for me as well..

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