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    Originally posted by maitre yoda View Post

    in principle I totally agree but we can think the same thing with another type of movement. So which one to choose ...

    I would always choose the eta clone. I swapped my clone for a gen eta and slow beat converted it. Not a fan of the miyota.


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      Man. I placed order but still waiting. Over month but nothing..

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        Originally posted by Kingquest_s View Post
        Man. I placed order but still waiting. Over month but nothing..

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        Hello,
        ordered from whom?
        It is true that a month is starting to be long ...

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          Worth the wait guys.

          Didn’t think I would like the shape but it has become my daily go to.

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            I'm sold. This is the best steel diver out there
            I'm in love with the shape of Roo // Sucker for 3-6-9 dials

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              It really is brother! A few people have broken their necks to sneak a peek lol

              It was my first decent AP and now I’m addicted. Thanks legend for pointing me in the right direction with this one!

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                Sadly not avaliable anymore for now. I had to order the JF V10 which is the only avaliable. Still waiting for QC photos.

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                  Just FYI ZF isnt avaliable but a JF V10. I just approved my QC photis. Great substitute.


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                    If you are happy with it we are happy for you, but the difference is striking.. Not a substitute for me.
                    I'm in love with the shape of Roo // Sucker for 3-6-9 dials

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                      Originally posted by SuperLory View Post
                      If you are happy with it we are happy for you, but the difference is striking.. Not a substitute for me.
                      I been looking at both and with a Gen and man its hard to tell. Both ZF and JF are so close. Each has one thing over the other. But im happy especially with the conditions we are in today with the raids. We will see how its in natrual light. I did want the ZF but maybe when things reopen I can have both.

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                        Originally posted by EuroTime25 View Post

                        I been looking at both and with a Gen and man its hard to tell. Both ZF and JF are so close. Each has one thing over the other. But im happy especially with the conditions we are in today with the raids. We will see how its in natrual light. I did want the ZF but maybe when things reopen I can have both.
                        Actually, if you know where to look, you will see that SuperLory is right. The ZF and JF in person are very different, and there is really no comparison. The ZF, after some light mods, can actually pass off as a gen. The JF V10 isn't bad, but there are a lot of details wrong with it. But it is a nice and fun rep. Wear it well and don't worry too much.

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                          Originally posted by legend View Post

                          Actually, if you know where to look, you will see that SuperLory is right. The ZF and JF in person are very different, and there is really no comparison. The ZF, after some light mods, can actually pass off as a gen. The JF V10 isn't bad, but there are a lot of details wrong with it. But it is a nice and fun rep. Wear it well and don't worry too much.
                          I will thanks. I have a friend who has 3 AP Gen the newest is the Skeleton Rose Gold and I will see if it fools him. But I just want the factories back up and running. I am not done with my collection. In a year I just got 7 watches from TD i still have few more I always wanted.

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                            Originally posted by EuroTime25 View Post

                            I will thanks. I have a friend who has 3 AP Gen the newest is the Skeleton Rose Gold and I will see if it fools him. But I just want the factories back up and running. I am not done with my collection. In a year I just got 7 watches from TD i still have few more I always wanted.
                            If your friend has no relevant knowledge about reps or isn’t expecting it to be a rep, it’ll likely fool him even if it is a stock noob v3. Whether he owns 3 gen APs or 300 is totally irrelevant.

                            Besides, why do you need to care whether your watch fools anyone? You just need to like it yourself and that’s it. Whether it fools your friend or not, it will still be 100% a rep. It won’t magically turn gen just because someone is fooled by it. Just enjoy it as a replica watch, there is no need to convince anyone else but yourself. If it’s real enough for you then it’s good enough.

                            So if I own, say, 20+ gen APs and your watch doesn’t “fool” me does it mean that it has failed as a rep? Sorry but I genuinely don’t see the purpose of your post


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                            Last edited by legend; 15-06-21, 01:26.
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                              Originally posted by EuroTime25 View Post

                              I been looking at both and with a Gen and man its hard to tell. Both ZF and JF are so close. Each has one thing over the other. But im happy especially with the conditions we are in today with the raids. We will see how its in natrual light. I did want the ZF but maybe when things reopen I can have both.
                              Not sure why your TD said that. I ordered a Zf recently, not an AP but it was an uncommon Frank Muller and yes it took over a month to get QC but they came. I find it hard to believe the TDs have said you cannot order it at all. ZF is still producing watches. Perhaps they don’t want to deal with new customers busting their chops on QC pics, who knows! I would try another TD and see what they say.

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                                Originally posted by Rollie4Life View Post

                                Not sure why your TD said that. I ordered a Zf recently, not an AP but it was an uncommon Frank Muller and yes it took over a month to get QC but they came. I find it hard to believe the TDs have said you cannot order it at all. ZF is still producing watches. Perhaps they don’t want to deal with new customers busting their chops on QC pics, who knows! I would try another TD and see what they say.
                                Im not a new customer have ordered 7 so far from Andrew. And I also got an ZF IWC from him 2 weeks ago and for some reason Andrew checked from the factory and at the moment not avaliable. Again im not butthurt the JF looks great to me. And in the end its all that matters.

                                Also I dont know if Andrew is good at picking watches but I never had to decline any watch he got for me. All were perfect to me. Thats why I keep ordering from him.
                                Last edited by EuroTime25; 15-06-21, 15:56.

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