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[Jurgenk]

The rubberclad bezel is actually a stainless steel bezel "clad" in rubber, and hence the name. On the rose gold RC, the bezel is rose gold like the case.
But no, shaving the bezel will not help, or modifying the tachy, as we will be replacing one flaw with another. I work with the movement positioning instead and adjust the rest of the components around this.

Agree very much with this point, having the movement placed optimally helps, while having it off axis or too forward or deep creates all kinds of issues. Drilling the crown tube exactly where you need it is critical, and hard to correct via other adjustments if it is off.

A major issue is that the JF rep crystal is 1.8 mm and doesn’t close the gap well with the stock bezel and rubber gasket.

Others have shaved the rubber gasket that sits between the mid case and bezel as I’m sure legend is aware.

I’m not a fan of this approach because the rep gasket is actually the same thickness as the gen gasket, so shaving it down is a tell in my book, unless it is done with restraint. However this approach can be used to achieve a thinner than gen watch precisely by using this method to close the gap found with a 1.8 mm crystal. Thicknesses of 13.8 mm are possible resulting in a very comfortable AP ROO. This is the ROO AP could have built but didn’t.

Replacing the rep sapphire 32 mm x 1.8 mm crystal with a 32 mm x 2.45 mm (Prof sells these) corrects the gap further and gives some sense of the top heaviness of the gen without overdoing it. Going full 3.0 mm thickness is not recommended as the rep crystal gasket and its pocket are not as deep as found on the gen bezel. It will fit but it seems less stable to me.

 

[legend]

Agree very much with this point, having the movement placed optimally helps, while having it off axis or too forward or deep creates all kinds of issues. Drilling the crown tube exactly where you need it is critical, and hard to correct via other adjustments if it is off.

A major issue is that the JF rep crystal is 1.8 mm and doesn’t close the gap well with the stock bezel and rubber gasket.

Others have shaved the rubber gasket that sits between the mid case and bezel as I’m sure legend is aware.

I’m not a fan of this approach because the rep gasket is actually the same thickness as the gen gasket, so shaving it down is a tell in my book, unless it is done with restraint.

Replacing the rep sapphire 32 mm x 1.8 mm crystal with a 32 mm x 2.45 mm (Prof sells these) corrects the gap further and gives some sense of the top heaviness of the gen without overdoing it. Going full 3.0 mm thickness is not recommended as the rep crystal gasket and it’s pocket are not as deep as found on the gen bezel. It will fit but it seems less stable to me.

And occasionally, just saying, someone like Jurgenk comes along and makes us all students of the game again.:hehehe:

 

[AP2003]

Jurgenk @Legend

Thank you both for the detailed explanations. I was always curious about the crystal thickness. I had some issues getting the right crystal for one of my Frankens because of the different bezels and I guess the bevel on the Crystal. I think that one was a Noob and had a 32.5mm crystal.
Just out of curiosity, is the gen 32mm, 32.5mm, 32.95mm or some other width?

 

[legend]

Jurgenk @Legend

Thank you both for the detailed explanations. I was always curious about the crystal thickness. I had some issues getting the right crystal for one of my Frankens because of the different bezels and I guess the bevel on the Crystal. I think that one was a Noob and had a 32.5mm crystal.
Just out of curiosity, is the gen 32mm, 32.5mm, 32.95mm or some other width?

I understand that the gen AP ROO crystal width is 32mm and there is also a 32.95mm variant with a bevel. That could be for the diver, I am not too sure about this.

 

[SuperLory]

my franken rubberclad also has a deeper gap than any other franken I saw (or own perhaps..)

Now because of you guys it bothers me a tiny bit

 

[Tompa]

my franken rubberclad also has a deeper gap than any other franken I saw (or own perhaps..)

Now because of you guys it bothers me a tiny bit

Hahah Blame it on Al.. it is the same for me..



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[Tompa]

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[Tompa]

@Superlory
Old gen has the same gap so dont worry. Like old WTRC. Vulcano etc.. dont think about it bro


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[Tompa]

Tompa, if I manage to resolve the gap issue in the current RC franken to my satisfaction, I will be happy to do the same for yours.

Sounds good brother! Hook me up


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[flying-tommy]

This is my build with a Gen Dial and Tachy plus Domis 1 x AR Crystal 2.5mm.

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[AP2003]

This is my build with a Gen Dial and Tachy plus Domis 1 x AR Crystal 2.5mm.

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Very nice! Does the crystal stick up much past the bezel? Could you possibly post a side picture. Thanks FT

 

[flying-tommy]

Very nice! Does the crystal stick up much past the bezel? Could you possibly post a side picture. Thanks FT

No it’s only a bit like the Gen we compared. Domi has created an press tool to press in the Glasses with the correct depth and stick out.

The rest is affected from his own movement holder.



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[legend]

This is my build with a Gen Dial and Tachy plus Domis 1 x AR Crystal 2.5mm.


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T you have to stop posting gens and claiming them to be frankens. It’s called cheating.


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[stanevo6]

legend and Jurgenk thank you so much for the amazing explanation guys. Learned a lot. :graman:

 

[flying-tommy]

T you have to stop posting gens and claiming them to be frankens. It’s called cheating.


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Thanks legend. Lol I wish they would be Gen....


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[Jurgenk]

Nice pictures @flying-Tommy

Domi sure knows his craft.

I’ve spent hours trying to get that precise and uniform level of crystal protrusion as Domi has, using a regular crystal press, and it absolutely makes sense to have a custom mold for this.

If you’re off by even a little you get a lack of uniformity across the circumference which can lead to water leaks due to the very thin lip of the bezel available to catch the crystal gasket and relatively thick 2.5 mm crystal.

Beautiful work

 

[flying-tommy]

Nice pictures @flying-Tommy

Domi sure knows his craft.

I’ve spent hours trying to get that precise and uniform level of crystal protrusion as Domi has, using a regular crystal press, and it absolutely makes sense to have a custom mold for this.

If you’re off by even a little you get a lack of uniformity across the circumference which can lead to water leaks due to the very thin lip of the bezel available to catch the crystal gasket and relatively thick 2.5 mm crystal.

Beautiful work

Thanks Jurgen!

Domi need so much time to learn about the Problems and improving his Franken work more and more.

And the newer Models (Ceramic Pusher) are a new Challenge because of the different Bezel/Tachy Construction.

All my Watches are Water resistant testet from him.

I know not the best dress watch but I love the ROO’s too much and with a big wrist it’s hopefully ok. Lol

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[Garuda]

flying-tommy you take some nice pictures.
how far does the crystal protrude? whatsw the measurements from to crystal to rear, versus bezel to rear.

 

[Jurgenk]

As long as we are all sharing our tachy gaps... I think a little is okay, here’s what I have on today.