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Mini Review - AP Diver Gen Strap + Buckle vs Rep Strap + Buckle v.2 and v.1

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Here's Comparison on Gen Strap + Buckle vs Rep Strap + Buckle V.2 and V.1

I use V.1 and V.2 because there's some version on the rep.

The V.2 belong to the diver 5.1

The V.1 comparison picture belong to some fellow member that i cant remember the name anymore,
Anyone feels like its their pics, please PM me, i will put the credit on him.

Gen will be on top or on the right unless i stated.

Both of the strap and buckle is brand new and unworn.



The famous diver that probably the Best Seller for AP Rep.



The Text and Logo Stamp is deeper on Gen, more neat.
The Six hole is exactly spot on.



"Swiss Made" bigger on rep



Some say the channel on the stripe deeper on the gen
- YES, its is by a hair, you can only see this if you have both in comparison
- NO, you cant use this a reference, since its very hard to tell based on the channel depth.



The old previous version of the rep strap, have a square end,
The latest version HAVE A ROUND LIKE GEN END!
Yes, the gen still rounder, but again without side by side thers no way to tell this!



here is something different that surprise me,
The Rep has more Y shape compare to gen, and IMHO this is the easy tell,
Or I have to say the rep is spot on on this lower piece of the strap.
Now move to the top strap



The Stamp is spot on! no complain on this one.



Same like the bottom piece, The rep Has more Y shape compare to gen.
and on this top piece, the rep channel end is more to square, where the gen has a nice round channel end.
And the gen channel depth also consistent all the way to end, while the rep is not.
and now move to buckle.



Now this is getting easier.
The rep stamp ACERINOX and all at once, while gen stamp ACER INOX.
Which has a space.
the gen ACER INOX stamp is so much bigger
The watermark on gen is smaller. and looks like the rep is cnc while the gen is cast.
The bead blast also different.







Now the top buckle, the lines on ap logo is spot on, more define than the v.1
Pay attention on the rep pin, 3/4 of the pin is not brush finished. suppose to be bead blast.



now you can compare to the gen 3/4 bead blast finished, so different.
and on gen this section will get darker and darker when you wear it, and its already very dark on my gen diver. while the rep wont get darker. but the bead blast finish on rep will faded when ageing.
probably the rep is not a bead blast finish but just some coating.



here on my gen diver





see how dark it turn to.



the buckle top cut on gen is very square and define while the rep is very round.







and the end of the pin on gen is very square and excatly match the square on the buckle body
while on rep is bulky



The AP logo size is spot on on rep!
the background on the logo is more smooth on gen



Over all:

i have to give credit to rep factory regarding on the rubber strap.
I will say the rep is spot on 95%
it is very hard to tell them apart if you dont have them side by side.
especially if both of them used, then its extreamly hard!
and the left 5% is something nobody ever mention which is the life span of the gen strap i found it more durable in the long run.
not by much but probably 35% more life span.
will it be worthed considering +/-250.USD vs +/-75.USD?
i personally said no, but probably for some member that already have the VACCUM mods package that look for 99% Diver.
Or for those who looked for a XS size. AP issue 3 size which is:
XS - Short Size
STD - Standard Length
XL - Long Size.
Theres no Rep XS Rubber Strap made period. (that have ap stamp)

On the other hand the buckle is an easy tell, the gen buckle just by far so superior against the rep buckle interm almost everything.
will it do the job yes, for most of the member which happy with their standard diver its enough.
but for the people that anal this is the iceing on top of the cake.
Will it worth the money? +/-750.USD vs +/-30.USD?
Again No. It just way expensive for a piece of metal!
but it's a must for VAC MOdded or fully modded Diver to become ULTIMATE DIVER!
pay close attention on the m2m or some auctioner, every now and then they will be one pop out.


Now here some pics on the V1 against V2

V1 on the left and V2 on the right



you can see the V1 is poorly made, the side line on the logo is too round.



the pin finished is all hairline and no bead blast at all.



the pin is not even square to the buckle body



V2 is much better



the V1 have a wrong stamp which is stainless steel instead of acerinox











here some V2 from angus website



And the stamp
And of course ave to close this review with some sexy AP Diver pictures
















Enjoy.

Some info
Buckle Ref Number: AD.0442.024.ST (Stainless steel) +/-750.USD
Strap Ref Number: BR.403.683.002CA (Standard length - Black Color) +/-250.USD
Strap Ref Number: BR.403.705.002CA (Short Length - Black Color) +/-250.USD
Strap Ref Number: BR.403.684.002CA (Long Length - Black Color) +/-250.USD

I add some info on spoting the fake buckle on ebay or on some forum sale.

since some of the member ask me how to spot it without looking at the back of the buckle.

here the pics info:



pay close attention on the rounded sign,
the gen has a very square finished that it makes a sharp bend.
the rep just makes a wave.

here some of the ebay fake buckle, hope you can spot it now.







see how theres no cut at all.



can spot this one too?



you can also spot it on the distence.

here some of the gen one:



and also on the rose gold



Hope it will make all member spot the differnce now..

Cheers.
 

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:)

here's the gen Deployant Buckle (DB)*(some say Deployment but its wrong according to WIS)*(WIS is us - Watch Idiot Savant) and rep deploy sit in our wrist, thats one of the reason why so many people complain on how uncomfy the rep ap deploy.

also another reason is the strap size.
The AP AD answer when people who complain on this matters will answer that the strap length is not the correct size. and they will encourage customers to purchase the XS or the XL strap, so the DB will sit on the flat bottom palm side of the wrist. not on the side curvy wrist.
Thats why the Diver being sold with XS strap in Some Asia country.

I know some gen owners also complain on the gen buckle, but me and many do not have this issue.


here is the pics:



Rep DB sitting freely
did you see the the gap o the DB it self?
also how the DB gap to the rubber.



The gen DB is nearly stick to the strap.
and also no gap on the Db.



even after being pushed down, there still gap



Perfect!
 

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so basically it's hard to tell the difference between v2 and gen without checking the inside buckle
 

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for the people that havent held gen buckle or read the comparison pics before, its hard, since they dont know what to look.

But for those who know what to look, its dead on.
 

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Great post and thanks for taking the time to share, some rep points coming your way:thumbsup:
 

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I think that the GEN buckle is a little wider as well. It must be a minuscule amount, because the GEN straps I have had seem to slightly rub on it. Can you confirm this ?
 

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I think that the GEN buckle is a little wider as well. It must be a minuscule amount, because the GEN straps I have had seem to slightly rub on it. Can you confirm this ?

will confirm this in 4 weeks or so, since i dont have the rep strap anymore :(
 

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additional info added on spotting the fake buckle on ebay.
 

asanibal

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Nice Job.
I am not able to spot anything regarding the fake vs gen pics... lol
fortunatelly not planning to buy gen.
 

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thanks for posting


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