Hi guys,
Glad to tell that ZZF is releasing their new 3135 version black submariner now.
Luckily we had the real watch 2 days ago then have prepared some pics for sharing some info advance to you all.
And sorry for those customers who contacted us that I did not reply in past 30 hours (if you are reading this topic), because I was stuck in preparing something for this topic.
But I will be back to you all as soon as I can, and everything with our orders will be on scheduled.
Then let's get down to some detailed pics you might would like to see.
General Front View
Sorry we have used one ZZF V1 no date sub here as the reference, as we dont find any V1 116610 left here already.
Dial Marker Close View
As we all know, there is an issue with V1 dial that there is dent can be seen in some angle around the markers.
Now ZZF has fixed this issue on this new V2 version as we can easily see on the picture above.
Genuine Dial Close View
We can see that there are curved dents around the hands hole and date window on genuine dial, ZZF V2 dial has keep it same to genuine as well.
Rehaut Close View
We can see that the rehaut engraving on V1 is kind rough and the alignment is quite bad.
They have upgraded the rehaut as well to make it closer to the gen both on engraving details and alignment.
Hands Close View
ZZF has upgraded the hands details too to make it with a better 3D effect, compares to V1.
Hands and Markers Pictures from Factory
Among all the rep submariners, there is a common issue that lume color between hands and markers are a bit different, even it is not even easily noticeable. Because in fact hands supplier and markers supplier are usually different, so it will cause this issue even they using the exactly same lume material.
From what I heard from ZZF, in order to fix this issue they have asked both the hands supplier and markers supplier to supply the hollow hands and markers only, so that they can use another professional parts factory to fill the lume for them, then the color difference issue will be solved.
And from what we saw personally, ZZF lume is quite bright and blue, very close to genuine.
Pearl Triangle Close View
We can see the edge of the triangle is kinda far from the insert edge on V1 compares to genuine, and the edge looks too straight as well.
Now this issue has been fixed as well on V2, it is very close to genuine.
Front Crystal Edge Close View
Many people might already know that in fact ZZF V1 crystal is considered a nice rep sub crystal already.
But they still has upgraded the edge radian of the crystal as well, we can see that the gap between the edge of crystal and the edge of insert is bigger than V1 and closer to genuine.
And as I know, dealing the edge of the crystal is actually very hard during the production procedure.
Cyclops and DW Close View (1-31)
They have updated some of the DW font as well.
Bracelet and Clasp Close View
As factory told, they have upgraded the bracelet as well, and we can easily see some differences in pictures above too.
1. The color of the new V2 bracelet looks brighter than V1.
2. The edge of the new bracelet has been dealt more rounded than V1.
3. The gap of the new clasp at the logo position is bigger than V1, closer to genuine.
4. The embossed part on the new clasp is better finishing than V1.
Markers Comparing Close View
Regarding to the question about "thinner or fatter edge of the marker", from this picture above we can see:
The genuine black submariner (bought in 2019) has the fatter ones, the genuine hulk submariner (bought in early of 2018) has the thinner ones.
Based on our experiences, starting from about middle of 2018, submariner has started using fatter ones already.
I think both thinner and fatter ones are fine, like the longer FT and the shorter FT issues too.
3135 Movement Close View
Sorry I am not very familiar with this clone movement, and due to some reasons we did not get much info from factory as well.
Wish some pro members can give us an advise about it.
And we might prepare a comparison topic about this clone movement and genuine movement in the future, if our time and energy allows.
OK, due to the our own busy schedule, this shall be end of this topic now.
Please leave comments and thoughts about this new rep submariner freely.
Also we might squeeze some of our time to sharing more info about this watch, depends on what else you guys need to see about it.
Overall, I think ZZF is kinda an aspirant and humble factory willing to face their disadvantages and make the updates based on customers requests.
And another news is that they will release their hulk submariner soon too, let's see how it looks when it is ready here.
Wish you all the best.
Li
JTime Watch
Glad to tell that ZZF is releasing their new 3135 version black submariner now.
Luckily we had the real watch 2 days ago then have prepared some pics for sharing some info advance to you all.
And sorry for those customers who contacted us that I did not reply in past 30 hours (if you are reading this topic), because I was stuck in preparing something for this topic.
But I will be back to you all as soon as I can, and everything with our orders will be on scheduled.
Then let's get down to some detailed pics you might would like to see.
General Front View
Sorry we have used one ZZF V1 no date sub here as the reference, as we dont find any V1 116610 left here already.
Dial Marker Close View
As we all know, there is an issue with V1 dial that there is dent can be seen in some angle around the markers.
Now ZZF has fixed this issue on this new V2 version as we can easily see on the picture above.
Genuine Dial Close View
We can see that there are curved dents around the hands hole and date window on genuine dial, ZZF V2 dial has keep it same to genuine as well.
Rehaut Close View
We can see that the rehaut engraving on V1 is kind rough and the alignment is quite bad.
They have upgraded the rehaut as well to make it closer to the gen both on engraving details and alignment.
Hands Close View
ZZF has upgraded the hands details too to make it with a better 3D effect, compares to V1.
Hands and Markers Pictures from Factory
Among all the rep submariners, there is a common issue that lume color between hands and markers are a bit different, even it is not even easily noticeable. Because in fact hands supplier and markers supplier are usually different, so it will cause this issue even they using the exactly same lume material.
From what I heard from ZZF, in order to fix this issue they have asked both the hands supplier and markers supplier to supply the hollow hands and markers only, so that they can use another professional parts factory to fill the lume for them, then the color difference issue will be solved.
And from what we saw personally, ZZF lume is quite bright and blue, very close to genuine.
Pearl Triangle Close View
We can see the edge of the triangle is kinda far from the insert edge on V1 compares to genuine, and the edge looks too straight as well.
Now this issue has been fixed as well on V2, it is very close to genuine.
Front Crystal Edge Close View
Many people might already know that in fact ZZF V1 crystal is considered a nice rep sub crystal already.
But they still has upgraded the edge radian of the crystal as well, we can see that the gap between the edge of crystal and the edge of insert is bigger than V1 and closer to genuine.
And as I know, dealing the edge of the crystal is actually very hard during the production procedure.
Cyclops and DW Close View (1-31)
They have updated some of the DW font as well.
Bracelet and Clasp Close View
As factory told, they have upgraded the bracelet as well, and we can easily see some differences in pictures above too.
1. The color of the new V2 bracelet looks brighter than V1.
2. The edge of the new bracelet has been dealt more rounded than V1.
3. The gap of the new clasp at the logo position is bigger than V1, closer to genuine.
4. The embossed part on the new clasp is better finishing than V1.
Markers Comparing Close View
Regarding to the question about "thinner or fatter edge of the marker", from this picture above we can see:
The genuine black submariner (bought in 2019) has the fatter ones, the genuine hulk submariner (bought in early of 2018) has the thinner ones.
Based on our experiences, starting from about middle of 2018, submariner has started using fatter ones already.
I think both thinner and fatter ones are fine, like the longer FT and the shorter FT issues too.
3135 Movement Close View
Sorry I am not very familiar with this clone movement, and due to some reasons we did not get much info from factory as well.
Wish some pro members can give us an advise about it.
And we might prepare a comparison topic about this clone movement and genuine movement in the future, if our time and energy allows.
OK, due to the our own busy schedule, this shall be end of this topic now.
Please leave comments and thoughts about this new rep submariner freely.
Also we might squeeze some of our time to sharing more info about this watch, depends on what else you guys need to see about it.
Overall, I think ZZF is kinda an aspirant and humble factory willing to face their disadvantages and make the updates based on customers requests.
And another news is that they will release their hulk submariner soon too, let's see how it looks when it is ready here.
Wish you all the best.
Li
JTime Watch
