http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Panerai-Radiomir- ... 911.c0.m14
Time to get reporting, and check out thise prices :lol:
Time to get reporting, and check out thise prices :lol:
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You have got to check this guy out
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I am aware of the difficulties a language barrier may present, but I think he's intentionally misleading the buyer. From his auction:
I emphasized that sentence to highlight the fact that the buyer thinks it's the real deal.
I emphasized that sentence to highlight the fact that the buyer thinks it's the real deal.
Do you guys really think that he doesn't know? Either way I've always had opinions on this subject. I won't ever report these items. Somone has bid 140 for it and whomever it is are one of three mindsets:
1. They know exactly what it is and are getting what they pay for. To avoid semantics, that includes what they're willing to pay for it.
2. They are so stupid that they actually believe that you can get a 10k watch for $200. So getting it pulled will only delay the inevitable meaning they will get taken at some point. Unless they walk out in front of a bus or confuse Rid O' Rat with table sugar which is very possible.
3. THEY are looking to take advantage of someone in which case Kharma will take care of it. And the Kharma bidniz is BOOMIN!
1. They know exactly what it is and are getting what they pay for. To avoid semantics, that includes what they're willing to pay for it.
2. They are so stupid that they actually believe that you can get a 10k watch for $200. So getting it pulled will only delay the inevitable meaning they will get taken at some point. Unless they walk out in front of a bus or confuse Rid O' Rat with table sugar which is very possible.
3. THEY are looking to take advantage of someone in which case Kharma will take care of it. And the Kharma bidniz is BOOMIN!
Sorry to be a bit naive here, but whats the big fuzz about?
His selling a rep at Ebay? So what, that's been done before.
It should be clear to all, that it's a rep. Sellers called "chinatrend", he writes that the mov is asian and it's WP @ 20 meters.
You can even pay by paypal.
What am I not seeing here? Why is this guy so bad?
OK, tell me I'm stupid, but if you don't ask...
His selling a rep at Ebay? So what, that's been done before.
It should be clear to all, that it's a rep. Sellers called "chinatrend", he writes that the mov is asian and it's WP @ 20 meters.
You can even pay by paypal.
What am I not seeing here? Why is this guy so bad?
OK, tell me I'm stupid, but if you don't ask...
fakemaster said:
I got no problems with any of those situations either...assuming the bid closes at or near a small fraction of the gen retail value.
Problem is, I've seen quite a few watches of "questionable authenticity" close in the thousands of dollar range.
My concern with this particular auction is that despite the fact that he said it's an Asia movement, when someone asks him if it's 100% original his answer was (I believe) purposefully vague and misleading.
I understand your point about the buyer trying to take advantage, but that goes back to my earlier comment about it being human nature to hope to get 'something for nothing', even against evidence and astronomical odds. Maybe the buyer thinks he's stumbled upon a deal that no one has noticed, etc. I can't fault the buyer without knowing his true intentions.
The seller, on the other hand, seems to respond to his question in such a fashion as to say, without "saying", yep it's great, and you should buy it now. NOW. I believe the seller is trying to close a sale with a "sucker" before someone can stop him.
Long story short, my complaint rests with his response to the question, not his actual item or sale.
I understand your point about the buyer trying to take advantage, but that goes back to my earlier comment about it being human nature to hope to get 'something for nothing', even against evidence and astronomical odds. Maybe the buyer thinks he's stumbled upon a deal that no one has noticed, etc. I can't fault the buyer without knowing his true intentions.
The seller, on the other hand, seems to respond to his question in such a fashion as to say, without "saying", yep it's great, and you should buy it now. NOW. I believe the seller is trying to close a sale with a "sucker" before someone can stop him.
Long story short, my complaint rests with his response to the question, not his actual item or sale.
The hypocrisy of ebay is a constant frustration
Ebay emphasise that they want to keep their marketplace safe. They do almost nothing to prevent obvious scam listings but when members report blatant scams like this one they generally fail to take any action. The seller in this case has had his email address publicised for a week as well as having ample opportunity to do a deal with those that bid while his ads were up.
Ebay - the scammers friend
Ebay emphasise that they want to keep their marketplace safe. They do almost nothing to prevent obvious scam listings but when members report blatant scams like this one they generally fail to take any action. The seller in this case has had his email address publicised for a week as well as having ample opportunity to do a deal with those that bid while his ads were up.
Ebay - the scammers friend
This is what I mean by semantics. No matter how you split hairs on it that coin has flip side. No one sells something for nothing. If an item is worth 10k they don't put it up at a starting bid of 135 with no reserve. Even if they're hard up they could easily sell it for 50%.
And Ebay won a judgement last year. They are not responsible for anything someone sells. Nor should they be. To much of the brother's keeper stuff in society as it is.
And Ebay won a judgement last year. They are not responsible for anything someone sells. Nor should they be. To much of the brother's keeper stuff in society as it is.
ebay lost a case to Louis V. last week for 10's or 100;s of millions of dollars re counterfeiting
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oops - the multi-million was old news
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008 ... itechcrime
the recent fine was only $100k
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008 ... itechcrime
the recent fine was only $100k
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budo said:What am I not seeing here? Why is this guy so bad?
OK, tell me I'm stupid, but if you don't ask...
Theoretically, selling reps on Ebay is already illegal:
http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/rep ... rfeit.html
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