Yachtmaster Ti - TW vs. EWF ?’s

[xLrnzo]

I just recieved my Yachtmaster Ti this morning.
A question for you guys and a few comments.
I requested a TW factory model and the first QC photos showed a watch with the TW factory sticker. Slightly misaligned bezel and dial led to a RL. The watch was otherwise ok but was hoping for a better example.
After a few weeks I recieved the QC for a second example. This one looked better although not perfect. I gave the GL as I was tired of the long wait.
This one arrived without any sticker. Also the alignment between the bezel and the dial markers was just about the same as the first RL’ed example.
My question is, Is there any way for me to tell if this is indeed a TW or is in fact an EWF factory watch?

Some comments on my YM ti:
The bracelet is very very nice imo. Finishing on both the watch head and bracelet are A+. Equal to my XF Pelagos anyway.
The winding and setting are very wonky. Crown positions are mushy and not precise. Very hard to set both time and date without alot of fussing around with the crown and stem. No quick set as far as I can tell. Had to rotate the hands to set date. Winding is scratchy too. Very dissapointed here. Hope the watch will break in but we will see
Any other owners, please chime in on your experience with either of these YM ti’s
Will report more later after wearing the watch for a few days.
Thanks!

 

[kikata1997]

EWF is closed at this time, according to a few telegram groups i follow. I don't think they used the same movement anyways, maybe a picture of that would help.

 

[Stuart Pitt]

I received the TW+ last week, very happy with it.
Everything about it is quality, loses less than 4 seconds per day.
Doesn't have quick set, winding is smooth and no problem setting time.
Better movement than the EW, take the back off to see.

 

[xLrnzo]

After a few days:
Winding and setting time still difficult. Needs lubrication! I could access the crown when unscrewed but havent opened it up yet. A bit better with a bit of watch oil on the crown threads.
The bracelet screws on 2 of the links are impossible to loosen with my good bergeon tools. Even with the heat and hot water treatment. Even with the penetrating oil treatment.
I was able to remove the one link necessary using a different location. First two tries were no go.
On the positive:
Wearing the watch is super comfy with light weight. Keeps excellent time so far at +1 s/day.
I kept thinking how nice this piece looks. It just lacks precision in the way it is assembled. I guess those unseen touches of quality, the stuff you feel but cannot see is what we pay for with gen. Just a thought.

 

[jkrw247]

TWF any day over EWF.

TWF uses VR3235 while EWF uses some funky Hangzhou movement that doesn't quite last

 

[Stuart Pitt]

The VR3235 in mine died after about a week, noticed it was two hours slow and the second hand was lurching forward, then it stopped.

 

[jkrw247]

The VR3235 in mine died after about a week, noticed it was two hours slow and the second hand was lurching forward, then it stopped.

sorry to hear that bro, you can get another VR3235 here

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006500317273.html