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Worldwide request : The black ceramic pam 317 "black night" ultimate badass chrono

Rambo73

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Being a long time Mr.Stallone Big Fan , I discovered the italian Panerai watches design in his movie Daylight (1996)
i was VERY intrigued but the case crown design , i liked it immediatelly but , at that time , didnt know about the reps universe and not having the funds
to purchase a panerai watch , i never made more research about that and the dust settles just like that...


But in 2008 , with the release of his latest Rambo installment : JOHN RAMBO (IV) BAM !!!!!! The Pam design hit my face & heart AGAIN with the Pre-V 5218-202a
its THE Watch that made me make a lots of web research about the Panerai company and made me discovered the replica universe too , making me
subscribing 3-4 Replica watches forums and having spend so many hours in front of our portable , making my wife come mad more than one time !!

Meanwhile , Watching the 3x "Expendables" Panerai Party flicks just make me drooling like a ******* war dog

The 202a is still my main unfinished project , I have sooo many parts and even a custom Pre-V wood box & pillow just for it , i take time to make it right
but i dont have the time i would want to finish the project , but step by step ...one of theses day , my holy grail will be completed & will do a complete review
of my version , even if a lots of Pre-V fan have already have made them in an awesome manner !

....but I go far from my initial thought , making a lots and lots of reading since 2008 , I falled in love with ONE Specific Panerai watch !
the ONE that if correctly made by someone\TD\Factory would end me strapping it to my wrist until i die...

---I have a heart crush for the Omega Ploprof , but only end wearing it when im at the beach\diving
---I had an immediate heart crush for the 438 (just wow , one badass manliest watch ever made , but the dial made for purist , miss a little something
for someone who work everyday with the need of a usefull & highly readable chrono tool

Im not a big fan of chrono watches with the only exception of the Omega Speedmaster of course ( CLASSIC among Classics)
but ask me why , i could not answer WHY i have such a PASSION about the 317 ...maybe its because to my eyes , the Pam 317
is THE Panerai Speedmaster for Manliest Shadow heroes , Expendables Style !

Its the kind of watch i would like see Sylvester Stallone wear in his last rambo chapter : LAST BLOOD (in post production)
I mean , its one hell of a "warrior\soldier of the shadow time tool equipment" specially made for the manliest fellows over the world

My main goal in this thread is to heard about you guys if you would like to see a high end Replica of the PAM 317 "Black Knigh" in Black Ceramic
with a decent movement (....and ish..maybe a working reserve power ?) (another story\thread discussion okay ? lol)
I mean , check the CLASS , ELEGANCY , ACCURACITY , and HOW the watch look whatever the straps you throw at it
: OME Black Rubber Strap (my favorite), Black or Red Leather or Croco , Whatever you throw at it !!!

AN ABSOLUTELY MANLIEST GORGEOUS TIME PIECE !!!!

VOTE IF YOU WANT A TD\FACTORY MAKING THIS LEGENDARY TIME PIECE THAT DESERVE MORE JUSTICE IN THE REPLICA PAM HALL OF FAME
(Let see where the votes (along your commentary) will lead us , Fellows Manliest Pam Lovers ;)

YOUTUBE PAM 317 REVIEW : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0NAQjNUJuw

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ALE7575

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Do you really know what you are asking for ???

-Chrono MONOPUSHER
-GMT 12 hrs
-Day/Night indicator
-Specially complicated Manifattura movement fitting only two PAm models : PAM 317 and PAM 311
-Lineal Power Reserve indicator

You WILL WAIT forever, my friend

Change your choice or you will get disappointed forever too

ALE
 

Rambo73

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Movement complication

Do you really know what you are asking for ???

-Chrono MONOPUSHER
-GMT 12 hrs
-Day/Night indicator
-Specially complicated Manifattura movement fitting only two PAm models : PAM 317 and PAM 311
-Lineal Power Reserve indicator

You WILL WAIT forever, my friend

Change your choice or you will get disappointed forever too

ALE

I understand the complications , its why I wanted to talk about such replica movement in another thread
I simply want to take the water "temperatura" to see how many guys out there would like to have one

You know how replica universe have evolved in the last 10-15 years , ....maybe in 5 years a factory would have resolved the tricks involving a P2004 Clone Movement ! would be so awesome !

Never said Never ...we dont know where we will be in 5 years

if a factory replicate this movement for mass production , I would be ready to spend $1k for this model (if necessary , would sell my blood for it !!!)
I assume that selling 500 $1K replica unit would be enough to cover the cost to aquire a gen 317 to put under the microscope and build the parts and still make profit out of the entire process , factory are really well equiped theses days.

....maybe im wrong , but whats a life worth without dreaming ;)

P.S. Even a A7750 with fake reserve and 2x buttons chrono pushers on the right side would make me happy !


This is a rare Special Edition model by Panerai which spent years in the making until finally being released during 2010. This model is extremely limited to only 500 pieces for world-wide distribution! As time goes by this watch will eventually be one of the most coveted are rare Panerai watches ever made !!
 

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-Specially complicated Manifattura movement fitting only two PAm models : PAM 317 and PAM 311


ALE


Sniff, sniff..... no love for my beloved 275??? :crushed:



Kidding. I LOVE the Dark Knight, as well - I'd love to own one, someday. :)
 

electick

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317 rep? Dun think any of the functions will work together.. Go for gen :)


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Rambo73

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317 rep? Dun think any of the functions will work together.. Go for gen :)


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Ahh guys , you are not funny lol a Gen at around 15-18K ....

I told that EVEN with a A7750 with 2x Chrono pushers on the right side in top & botton of the Crown , fake non-working power reserve , I will be happy
but the case , dial & hands must be TOP NOTCH accurate , I can even have a closed caseback or a P.9001\b look alike decoration , i dont care

I LIKE THIS DIAL \ CERAMIC CASE \ DOME SAPPHIR combination ....on a OEM Black Rubber or Red Leather strap ....it could be a killer watch , even in the fantasy section !
 

electick

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Worldwide request : The black ceramic pam 317 "black night" ultimate badass ...

Yes I like the dome crystal on the ceramic case a lot :) it give some little distortion on the numerals awesome

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Kidding. I LOVE the Dark Knight, as well - I'd love to own one, someday.
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BLACK NIGHT
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I love your 275 ...its just that ...its NOT BLACK !!! LOL

...wow , a 275 !
how much have you put on the table for this ???


EDIT : Im confused !! , What is that joke at $259.99 USD ?
did they replicated the 275 ??

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Well if you think a picture of the gen 275 is a joke, then I believe you will accept any attempt to replicate the black knight.

Ahh guys , you are not funny lol a Gen at around 15-18K ....

I told that EVEN with a A7750 with 2x Chrono pushers on the right side in top & botton of the Crown , fake non-working power reserve , I will be happy
but the case , dial & hands must be TOP NOTCH accurate , I can even have a closed caseback or a P.9001\b look alike decoration , i dont care

I LIKE THIS DIAL \ CERAMIC CASE \ DOME SAPPHIR combination ....on a OEM Black Rubber or Red Leather strap ....it could be a killer watch , even in the fantasy section !

You want the 317 yet are willing to compromise on what is replicated faithfully. Aside from the movement, I would be pushing for accuracy on everything else.
 

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BLACK NIGHT
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I love your 275 ...its just that ...its NOT BLACK !!! LOL

...wow , a 275 !
how much have you put on the table for this ???

AAAAAaaaaah..... oops. BLACK Knight - of course. Hard to keep the name straight when you're a Star Wars nerd such as myself, LOL :)

Thanks. The 275 was actually a replacement - I had my gen 213 stolen (along with gen Daytona SS and gen 196 :culpability:), and the 275 was an insurance replacement. I love it - I could look at the movement for ages!

Sorry to the OP - to bring the topic back to the original topic - I can't ever see the 317 being replicated with any accuracy, unfortunately! It would be fantastic, if they managed it, though!
 

Rambo73

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Thanks Electick

Yes I like the dome crystal on the ceramic case a lot :) it give some little distortion on the numerals awesome
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Many thanks for your Answer Electick (lol i like your name) ;)

this model is ONE of the most beautiful Pam model for soldiers , military divers , field agents
I mean , it have the : "Je ne sais quoi " , I like it a lots as many other actions mens !

Your is a Rep or a Gen ?

Just received an email from Kim Masey (PaneraiReplica.us) that say :

Sure, we have this for 1200$

No discounts, no negotiations


...Im waiting for photos & movement type\operations available...
 

ALE7575

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Sniff, sniff..... no love for my beloved 275??? :crushed:

Kidding. I LOVE the Dark Knight, as well - I'd love to own one, someday. :)


Yes, you are "almost" right
LOL
But PAM 275 and 277 are indeed fitted with a Manifattura P.2004/1 without Day/Night indicator. Not exactly the same movement as P.2004 fitting 371 and 311

ALE :)
 

Rambo73

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BLACK N-I-G-H-T lol i will start to think that you troll me ;)

ouch , a 213, Daytona and 196 stolen all together ! (1x gen 2x reps or ALL gen ??) i feel your pain
its why i will NEVER purchase a GEN anymore after someone stole me a cheap Casio in my locker at the gym.... theses kind of lowlife scumbags...

No need to be sorry , this thread is about HOPE , it cost NOTHING to Dream about and if one day its possible\available , i will be the very first to Jump on it ! haha

Have a nice Sunday my friend ;)
 

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Yes, you are "almost" right
LOL
But PAM 275 and 277 are indeed fitted with a Manifattura P.2004/1 without Day/Night indicator. Not exactly the same movement as P.2004 fitting 371 and 311

ALE :)

I am confused!!! Educate me, please, ALE! I searched for a picture of a 277, and indeed, it does not have a day/night indicator, but here is a picture of the face of my 275 - it does have the AM/PM indicator, does it not? Am I missing something here?? (It wouldn't be the first time, hahaha).


BLACK N-I-G-H-T lol i will start to think that you troll me ;)

ouch , a 213, Daytona and 196 stolen all together ! (1x gen 2x reps or ALL gen ??) i feel your pain
its why i will NEVER purchase a GEN anymore after someone stole me a cheap Casio in my locker at the gym.... theses kind of lowlife scumbags...

No need to be sorry , this thread is about HOPE , it cost NOTHING to Dream about and if one day its possible\available , i will be the very first to Jump on it ! haha

Have a nice Sunday my friend ;)


AAAAUGH!!! NIGHT, NIGHT I mean!! Sorry - I am an idiot, LOL. I agree - without dreams, we have no aspirations.

Yes, all three watches were gens - we had a break in at our house. :( I also lost a Maurice Lacroix and my beloved Nike digital running watch, LOL.

If the Black NIGHT became available in a rep, I'd be amongst the first in line!
 

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I am confused!!! Educate me, please, ALE! I searched for a picture of a 277, and indeed, it does not have a day/night indicator, but here is a picture of the face of my 275 - it does have the AM/PM indicator, does it not? Am I missing something here?? (It wouldn't be the first time, hahaha).


Excuse me but PAM 275 has P2004/1 movement and your watch have P2004 movement as you can see

It seems a PAM 317 in a case of PAM 275

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chileno

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Dear Sirs: im looking for a part for my watch panerai Ceramic , need a flywheel shaft , anyone know here can get it?



Regards from Chile
 

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Having owned a Gen Pam 311, I wanted to set the record straight. There are 4 Panerai's with the 8 day Monopulsante movement. All contain the P2004/1 movement.

Pam 311- Titanium, Tobacco Dial
Pam 275- Stainless Steel, Black Dial
Pam 317- Black Ceramic The Black Knight
Pam 277- Rose Gold with Blue Dial

Panerai P2004/1 Manual Winding Manufacture Movement,Column Wheel Chronograph, GMT Complication, Seconds Reset, Power Reserve Indicator, Day/Night Indicator, Three Spring Barrels, 333 Parts. 28,800 vph

I'm sure we would all love to see Reps offer more complications, but currently, they still struggle with getting a chronograph to work properly with seconds at 6 o'clock. I fear we are far far away from a Rep with these types of complications. I would be happy to settle for a faux monopulsante, but with a great power reserve and accurate GMT with Day Night Indicator. I'm sure the engineers at the Rep Factories can build it!! If you build it we will come!!
 

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wow, had no idea 317 was that difficult to replicate. is it because it's 8 day reserve? seems like all panerai 8-10day reserves are manual winding. is manual winding the reason why it's hard to replicate 317?
 

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wow, had no idea 317 was that difficult to replicate. is it because it's 8 day reserve? seems like all panerai 8-10day reserves are manual winding. is manual winding the reason why it's hard to replicate 317?

It's not the manual winding or even the power reserve. It is the movement. If the factories are going to do this properly, then the movement has to be at least visually accurate to the gen. it may come in the form of decorative plates like on the P9000 or a real clone movement (but I wouldn't hold my breath). But even with just the decorative plate route there seems to be no updates at least to any effort being done. Maybe they'll do one with faux PR, faux pushers just to see if there's any interest. We can always hope.