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Which pam417?

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barney_stinson

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I have been thinking to buy a PAM417. As far as I know from the grandmaster ALE's post about KW PAM417, kuvarsit's pam417 is really good. In kuvarsit's official website it is 328$. On the other hand in Intime watches it is 198$. Intime is a trusted dealer, so I really am confused about the price difference. If they were the exact same watches why there is a big price difference? If they were not the exact same watches why intime sell it with the name as "PAM417 KW FACTORY ON BROWN ASSO LETHER STRAP WITH PRE-V HANDS"

http://intime.co/product.php?id_product=1102 here is the link.
 
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Dear friend
Unfortunately we are talking about reps and there are no fixed rules and concrete specifications to be followed.
There is no a compulsory guide to make or nominate a watch as KW version
Of course the caseset of Intime and dial are from KW but we cannot assure the finish, polishing, crystal... are the same as first KW versions. Indeed first KW crystals were bluish just like gen and many people are even saying that last KW dials are brown instead of black
But this will happen the same with a watch bought from KW directly

This rep is almost stopped on production or completely stopped, maybe to make better cases or even better versions in the future. But these are just speculations.
What I can assure is that the watch from Intime will be more 90% the same as KW best version and for the price is a bargain.
Another thing you could do is consult KW about this matter and study KW's answer, in case you get one.

Sorry for being so ambiguous but as above commented we are dealing with reps and there is no rules and less with reps out of regular production

Good luck
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thank you so much Ale. You are the man. In fact I chatted someone on live chat on kuvarsit.me and she said they didn't have any relationship with intime.co and she said they have just tried to copy kuvarsit's 417.
 
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barney_stinson said:
thank you so much Ale. You are the man. In fact I chatted someone on live chat on kuvarsit.me and she said they didn't have any relationship with intime.co and she said they have just tried to copy kuvarsit's 417.
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Be careful about this matter
Firstly there are some scammers sites with the name of Kuvarsit and you could perfectly contacted with one of them
Anyway you cannot rule out a reply from KW in this way although the Intime watch was from KW, we cannot know the situation of the commercial relationship KW-Intime.
On the other hand, the case of PAM 417 showed by intime is a KW without doubts (No needed to copy a KW case with all its flaws !!!) whatever says KW or whoever is

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Buy with confidence mate. I got a 417 from Sead for about $200 a few months back. When I asked why so cheap, I was told the movement didn't have the correct inscriptions and they were offloading them cheaper. I trust Sead to give me the correct information and not sell me something which was not KW made but say it was.
 
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Norrie said:
Buy with confidence mate. I got a 417 from Sead for about $200 a few months back. When I asked why so cheap, I was told the movement didn't have the correct inscriptions and they were offloading them cheaper. I trust Sead to give me the correct information and not sell me something which was not KW made but say it was.
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I'd actually heard the same thing. Of course I can not verify it first hand.....but a plain-jane a6497 could account for some of the price-drop. And of course with the solid caseback....who cares!!!
 
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Buy with confidence from intime. Here's my 417 received about a month ago. An absolute bargain!
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barney_stinson

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thank you so much guys, well I went to a different direction and bought a pam436 from Ryan instead of pam417 :)


edit: 346 :) not 436
 
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barney_stinson

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and also now I am totally aware of that kuvarsit.me is a scammer website, I thought its official website of KW.
 
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barney_stinson said:
thank you so much guys, well I went to a different direction and bought a pam436 from Ryan instead of pam417 :)


edit: 346 :) not 436
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Probably the best deal of this year, good choice :)
 
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Is it recommended to buy a 417 (bargain) yet? Or better save the money, for a "regular" pam?

Isn't it the same quality of 417, as in ALE & KLOKIS Review??
 
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cal8500 said:
Is it recommended to buy a 417 (bargain) yet? Or better save the money, for a "regular" pam?

Isn't it the same quality of 417, as in ALE & KLOKIS Review??
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As noted by Ale's post above you have to be careful. I bought one last Dec & it arrived with a brown dial. Very disappointed. However my wife ordered it as a surprise & didn't request qc pics. Live & learn.


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