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Which is the better explorer 124270, Clean or VSF?

londonmayne

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For my first rep, I thought I'd get a 124270, a model that I really like.
From my research, it seems obvious that the best reps for this model are the Clean and VSF.
Clean really seems to have the dimensions and bracelet etc. all down, but i have reservations about the vr3230 movement..
And VSF, recently released their model with the, no ghost vs3230 movement that seems to be much better?

If you had to pick one, which one would you pick?
 

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Hiya and welcome, your best bet is to go and read some of the forum rules, use the search function on the model number and read up on the posts that relate to them. There are lots of hiddne gems in many of the posts where our community has already answered many of those questions.

No one will give you and answer of buy this one over this one as its up to you really. So many reps are really very clsoe their genuine counterparts but ALL have flaws, (this keep the industry ticking, either by design or by acutall capability) .

Lots are so very close that only the most knoweldgeable would be able to tell from a few feet away and even then would need to closely inspect it.

Clean and VSF are 2 factories that offer very good attention to detail but we cant expect gen perfection based on the prices they sell for.

Its best to look at lots of the TD's and waht they have to offer most have access to the same stocks so its really down to price and level of comfort withthe TD.

Look at the pictures (sometimes ones for sale on here are a safe bet as the pics can be less salesy, but there is the issue of warranty on a private sale.

Look at the pics and then look at the pics of a gen version on ebay or other sites and compare them.

Golds are often difficult to get right, but also thinking about the genuine articles value in the real world vs your own place in society. It looks a touch odd if working in Mcdonalds on the fries section and sporting a £25K Gold Daytona.

To be fair the model you are thinking of is quite low end value int he real world so will have far less scrutiny in real life as its far less bling and much more likely to get hold of either buy buying of a gift etc....

The less complicated the movement the better as there was other things that come into play too.


Good luck and have a good look around, find one you like and buy it, its not mega bucks if you dont like.

Also look for sale of it on here too
 

londonmayne

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thank you for your response @TerryRobot , it seems either factory is good, so I'll hopefully be happy be with either one.
I had read that there is an updated vr3230 movement with a better power reserve but I cannot remember where i read that.. maybe i'm imaging it..?
 

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For my first rep, I thought I'd get a 124270, a model that I really like.
From my research, it seems obvious that the best reps for this model are the Clean and VSF.
Clean really seems to have the dimensions and bracelet etc. all down, but i have reservations about the vr3230 movement..
And VSF, recently released their model with the, no ghost vs3230 movement that seems to be much better?

If you had to pick one, which one would you pick?
Why do you have reservations about the VR3230 movement? VS is better, but that doesn’t mean VR is bad.
 
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londonmayne

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Why do you have reservations about the VR3230 movement? VS is better, but that doesn’t mean VR is bad.
yeah you're right, doesn't mean the VR is bad! it's just that i had read so many comments about people wanted to upgrade the vr movement on their clean watch with the VS one..
Vr isn't bad, but the VS is an outright upgrade, would i be right in that?
 

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I have both movements, one in a vsf sub and one in a CF sub, the VSF sub is slightly more accurate than the CF but the CF is accurate enough. The CF watch is at least a couple of years old though and had a hard life, someone got it drunk on tequila and beat it up.
 
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yeah you're right, doesn't mean the VR is bad! it's just that i had read so many comments about people wanted to upgrade the vr movement on their clean watch with the VS one..
Vr isn't bad, but the VS is an outright upgrade, would i be right in that?
To be honest, I don’t think you would ever notice the difference.
 
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And you know, once you buy your first replica, it quickly turns into 15 more… so power reserve becomes the least of your worries because you never wear the same watch for more than half a day anyway!
 

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I have the 124070 CF and a VSF sub.

I have to say that I really love both watches!

The CF movement is absolutely stunning. Runs more accurate than my wife`s gen.

Not complaing about the VSF sub (running couple of sec to fast per day) but the Expl I is most accuarte in my 5 watch rep collection.
 

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Hiya and welcome, your best bet is to go and read some of the forum rules, use the search function on the model number and read up on the posts that relate to them. There are lots of hiddne gems in many of the posts where our community has already answered many of those questions.

No one will give you and answer of buy this one over this one as its up to you really. So many reps are really very clsoe their genuine counterparts but ALL have flaws, (this keep the industry ticking, either by design or by acutall capability) .

Lots are so very close that only the most knoweldgeable would be able to tell from a few feet away and even then would need to closely inspect it.

Clean and VSF are 2 factories that offer very good attention to detail but we cant expect gen perfection based on the prices they sell for.

Its best to look at lots of the TD's and waht they have to offer most have access to the same stocks so its really down to price and level of comfort withthe TD.

Look at the pictures (sometimes ones for sale on here are a safe bet as the pics can be less salesy, but there is the issue of warranty on a private sale.

Look at the pics and then look at the pics of a gen version on ebay or other sites and compare them.

Golds are often difficult to get right, but also thinking about the genuine articles value in the real world vs your own place in society. It looks a touch odd if working in Mcdonalds on the fries section and sporting a £25K Gold Daytona.

To be fair the model you are thinking of is quite low end value int he real world so will have far less scrutiny in real life as its far less bling and much more likely to get hold of either buy buying of a gift etc....

The less complicated the movement the better as there was other things that come into play too.


Good luck and have a good look around, find one you like and buy it, its not mega bucks if you dont like.

Also look for sale of it on here too
Pretty good advice. Thanks!
 

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When it comes to the dimensions, I totally agree! Just take a look at @steve_theonewatches comparison - Clean vs Gen. Hats off to him, it's really well done! :)