Where are the new AP reps or is JF just milking us on the current ones?

[Jurgenk]

What do you mean?

Sorry for not being more clear, your logic is perfectly fine, I was bemoaning JF factory for asking what they ask for the current ROO reps while resting on their laurels.

 

[Jurgenk]

This should be the quintessential attitude in the hobby toward AP reps. Yes they’re generally not accurate and yes they’re not going to fool anyone who knows what to look for.

But yet, those aren’t your concerns. You wear one because you like the look and feel of it. To hell with “gen-like” this or that, it’s your watch of choice and that’s that.

We are an eclectic variety of enthusiasts gathered here and we play the game within our own boundaries. Nobody is going to look down upon a rep for for what it is, but contention often begins when watches are often misrepresented for what they are, with terms like “superfranken”, “most gen like”, “best besides gen” and “rare and coveted” being thrown around like bad jokes. I know everyone has different opinions and that any modded/franken AP watch will be interpreted subjectively but because opinions and perspectives differ we are always going to debate and discuss. And that is not a bad thing at all.
I do not think AP reps are trash. The build quality of AP reps in the recent years have evolved tremendously and it’s impressive to to see the evolution of the productions of the factories. So yes you can get very nice watches for a couple of hundred dollars. But the reps and gens are in entirely different leagues and each should be enjoyed for what it is.
I agree with the general sentiment that the divers and royal oaks are being churned out at a near-frenetic pace but that’s because it’s what the market laps up. Production is always driven by demand and motivated by profit. Even in the wild I’ve been spotting more AP divers and 15400 and I personally think that >90% of them are reps and there is nothing wrong at all with that. Everyone can decide what goes on their wrists. For me a true “AP super rep” is good news for our community but if you’re in a circle of AP rep enthusiasts where you live and work, chances are that you’re going to see the same watch show up a lot more on familiar wrists. For me personally I do like the current development of the AP reps where you still see a garden variety of APs in the picture thread, regardless of whether they are gen, franken or rep or modded. For me this community is about learning and we tend to do that better with variety and knowledge being shared and for that to happen there needs to be more than just a uniform knowledge level.

The AP rep game has been very kind to AP, in that all of this activity must be seen as a sincere form of flattery, without truly holding a threat to what the gens have to offer, and a gateway to the real thing for those who wish and are fortunate enough. In the big cities I don’t actually see as much rep AP activity in the same way that fake rolexes are on every delivery driver, and this helps to preserve some semblance of credibility for the brand. The moment a really credible rep for a desirable newer model comes along with a clone movement, all that changes. JF won’t make the investment— according to Angus, just a bad business proposition. But I have seen stranger things happen in the Chinese rep industry seemingly in response to challenges like this, sometimes with no real sensible plan to make a profit. So maybe not JF, but some upstart with great CNC machining capabilities and a very stubborn and talented watchmaker will start churning out 3120/3126 clones or better yet the 4302 given enough demand...

 

[SuperLory]

given enough demand...

i think the nucleus of the discussion is this. Is there such demand ?

 

[QueTip]

i think the nucleus of the discussion is this. Is there such demand ?

If the right things would be fixed, I assume the demand would be there.

 

[BIONONE]

Here you go: https://puretime.io/royal-oak-offsh...on-black-blue-dial-on-rubber-strap-a3126.html

cant wait for another great A7750 release with a different color scheme

 

[erans007]

Here you go: https://puretime.io/royal-oak-offsh...on-black-blue-dial-on-rubber-strap-a3126.html

cant wait for another great A7750 release with a different color scheme

thx