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When will the 386 is repped?

__iceman__

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Not ordinarily a Panerai fan coz to be honest they all look alike - LOL.

But this one... the colour combo just hits the sweet spot. So how long will it take before it hits the dealers? And from the experience of you guys, will it take several versions to get it right?

I like this quite a bit, may even stretch for a gen but AD's telling me that its probably so limited that chances of getting it are really slim.

panerai-pam-386-620x620.jpg
 

Nash

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I don't really like the chances of getting an accurate rep.

It does look great but like PAM292 I'm guessing the best they could do is make a PVD SS case instead of the ceramic case.

I think I would shell out the cash for a gen if offered, that has to be one of the best looking PAMs ever.

Limited edition, clear caseback, new in-house movt, ceramic case, alot of hurdles to jump over and I wouldn't be holding my breath on a rep much less a "good" one.
 

Nash

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I'd just get a 177 for the dull titanium finish from lay, get a heroic18 strap or whatever you want and be happy.

You'll have a nice looking basic pam w/ great lume and chunky strap for like 300.

Davidsen has/had a nice looking PVD 360, IDK if they are available.
 

No name

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the best they could do is make a PVD SS case instead of the ceramic case

...something that I'd actually be ok with. Yeah, I know... to have one repped from the same material as the gen would be AWESOME but even a PVD coated SS case would do on this one. I just LOVE the design!!!

Actually I'm thinking about getting a 312 from puretime or similar and doing just that. If anyone knows of a good coater who could do this in the right color, please let me know.

I think I would shell out the cash for a gen

That would be approx. 10 to 14 grand... pretty damn much IMO and not everyone has THAT deep pockets.

I'd just get a 177 for the dull titanium finish from lay, get a heroic18 strap or whatever you want and be happy.

Been there, done that (DSN instead of Lay, but otherwise exactly as described). I sold it and got something different, so... just because other things look good, doesn't satisfy the desire to get something different, no?

Cheers,

Marc
 

Nash

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Does anyone sell a 312, it uses the same P.9k movt as the 386.

You may like the PVD coating but like the aforementioned 292, it just isn't the same, in that instance I would just choose one that is meant to be PVD, but again that's me.

As for the price that'd be not buying a new bike this year, selling a bike, selling a gen something, hell take out a loan, it'd be pretty hard to turn down a gen like that if you were offered it.

As for the 177 the OP even said "all panerais look alike" so I'm going to assume he doesn't have any Panerai reps, if he is really wanting a first panerai that's what I'd get, it's no 386 but it's a start.

You can wait for a 386 rep but it wont come, the factories could make them or anything for that matter, but at a price no one on here would pay. They are a business and I don't see them being able to make an accurate enough 386 for a reasonable price.

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pam-pvd-360-61974

That's the Davidsen 360.
 

__iceman__

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???? ????

Couldn't have said it better than Nash.

Did I ask something wrong or silly?

Correctly spotted Nash - I don't have any Panerai reps except for a skeleton one that I don't even think is accurate. I did not bother checking it out as it could not have been anything great since I got it for less than $100.

You are also correct that I want to perhaps get my first Panerai to see what its all about. The 386 just struck me as a really beautiful colour combo. I think it would be a classic to come.
 

__iceman__

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I'd just get a 177 for the dull titanium finish from lay, get a heroic18 strap or whatever you want and be happy.

You'll have a nice looking basic pam w/ great lume and chunky strap for like 300.

Davidsen has/had a nice looking PVD 360, IDK if they are available.

Am researching that 177 route right now! Looks pretty viable and really bang for buck for Panarais as opposed to me running up all the alleys of $500 and $600+ versions of AP ROOs and HBBs to wet my appetite for a decent collection.
 

__iceman__

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Update - the 177 looked so sweet I ordered one from Lay. Weeks of researching APs and Hublots - within a couple of days I pulled the trigger for this one!

Will post pics and reviews as the watch comes.
 

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386 probably will never happen on a good level.

we've been trying pretty hard to get the factories, or any factory really to make a
rep p.9000 movement, but they're not having it, it's too much work for them.
we've asked basically just for them to make a nice rotor, and a cover plate for the
movement (asian 7750) but they refuse. they're not really even willing to try.

so basically if these style watches do get repped, which many already have been,
they're just going to come with some cheap ass and basic looking crap a7750.
and therefore they're going to be cheap reps, like $200 or less probably.

the 386 is composite, and even brown pvd won't really look right, and certainly will
be too heavy.

I think the factories just don't really care. if they took their time, did it right, and
made a very close to gen movement and watch, they'd end up certainly making their
money back in the long run. every single one of us probably would buy that watch.
but they don't care that much. they just want to use the shit movements that are
already available and stuff them into whatever will sell. look at the 111j, 177l, 288k,
etc, etc, etc. all with horrible movements, old movements, stuffed into nice cases.

so this 386, if attempted will be no different, it'll just be another half-assed attempt
and probably a waste of their time. I think with the caliber of rep improving overall,
all these half-assed attempts are just going to end up being losses for the factories.

I'm just personally bitter about the whole thing though.
 

__iceman__

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But to be fair business is business, no one can garantee they will sell enough 386s to cover. And why do they just want to 'cover'.

Even though we pay top dollar for great reps - I am not sure if the high end rep community moves enough volume as opposed to those that are sold in the streets to tourists? That must be an easier sell. Any tourist wouldn't know what to look for in the details and even quartz will do if the watch looks good.
 

MMs

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damnit, these error messages ate my response.

I'll just sum it up I guess then:

there's currently 7 p.9000 watches, all probably would be very popular. and being
a new movement and Panerai's new direction, there will be more future automatics
with this movement in them.

either the rep factories rep this movement, or they just stuff junk a7750's in there
and limit their client base to those that either know nothing, or don't care at all to
have anything close to gen. the vast majority of us would probably never buy a
nicely repped p.9000 model with just an a7750 in it. they're already making these,
and they're already trying to be resold on the forums, and they're going nowhere.

nobody wants to mess with that crap unless they either have no idea or don't care.
so either the rep factories take note and rep an in-house movement, or they just
sell their junk to noobs. or stick to closed case backs. that's kind of my view.
 

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Did I ask something wrong or silly?

Not at all Icey (hey, did you pick the nick name of a prof. killer on purpose???), just touching a weak spot with MM and me, that's all.

We'd LOVE to see the makers climb up the ladder and improve their products. To take them to a new level. But alas it's not meant to be and it's frustrating!

Look what the vintage guys are pulling off. They're making reps. like you wouldn't believe it!!! VDB is adding his LOGO on the inside of the case backs, so they won't end up being sold as gens. for 5, 6 digits one day. THAT is how good they are and guys like Nightwatch are absolutely in that league IMO.

And here WE are, not able to get a bloody plate over an existing movement. We are NOT the typical tourist buying a rep. somewhere in the streets and hence we don't wanna be treated as such...

Ok, off my soapbox.

Cheers,

Marc
 

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oh, on the plate issue.

I saw where Angus brought it up to the maker, and the maker said that it was a
good idea, but adding that plate would make the rotor unable to spin. which of
course means they'd have to make probably a longer rotor shaft or something of
the sort, to gain the clearance, and it's not something they want to get into.

we can't give up hope yet, but it's not looking good :(
 

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Yeah, I read it yesterday... As I said: FRUSTRATING!

Best,

Marc
 

__iceman__

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very insight indeed and thanks for the knowledge.

My nick is not a reflection of my instincts (hahah) but rather from days where I mucked around with In-Car-Entertainment. Add that to a mind that's not very creative and a backside that's too lazy to think of another nick for this newfound hobby - voila.

Hmm perhaps I should select a new rep watch related nick but alas, already signed on as VIP and got the ball rolling with postings here.
 

Glimmer

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God I want them to make this! Probably never gonna happen tho , like you all stated ;(

/sadpanda