What's the best Submersible ? 305P/364P/371N/571P/243M please help

[marcko]

Hi
Trying to decide on wich Sub to buy.
What i've found so far:
571 P P9000 v6f & ZP9000 zf
305 L A7750
364 P P9000
371 N ZP9001
243 M A7750

I actually like them all, just can't figure out wich has best movement and wich is closest to gen.
also i don't understand why some have colorless saphire and some don't, and what's better.
Can anyone help me with some info on what's best to look at and such.
I appreciate any comments

 

[ShadyManc]

243M, no doubt about it.

 

[marcko]

243M, no doubt about it.

Really ?
Can you tell me why please ?

 

[nalomb]

Really ?
Can you tell me why please ?

Because it very close to gen in many respects where others falter and the addition of a closed case back is a nice plus. My choice, however, would be the 187.


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[d4m.test]

243M, onw of the best overall, anyway I would go with the Bronzo 382.

 

[Hawker789]

Another 243 vote; simply love mine!


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[marcko]

Because it very close to gen in many respects where others falter and the addition of a closed case back is a nice plus. My choice, however, would be the 187.


Thanx for your advice, i really like the 187 also but the misplaced date is very annoiyng, don't you think ?

 

[FLWatchGuy]

187. Had mine on today at the pool. It's great and virtually indistinguishable.

 

[nalomb]

Misplaced as in wrong orientation or sunken date wheel? The sunken date wheel can be taken care of with an A7753 movement.


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[marcko]

Misplaced as in wrong orientation or sunken date wheel? The sunken date wheel can be taken care of with an A7753 movement.

I mean the date is closer to the 5 then gen, that is very noticeable.

 

[nalomb]

Not on the wrist -- it is an error, but very minute in the scheme of things


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[mysterio]

The flat subdials are a bigger tell on the PAM187, but don't let that stop you. I love mine. Closest to gen, I would say among your choices, the PAM243 if you fancy a 44mm, or the PAM364 for the 47mm. Maybe you've missed them, but I would recommend the PAM569 (the one in my sig) as well as the PAM508 if you're into the stealth look.

 

[ALE7575]

I cannot agree more with mysterio

PAM 243 and 364 Noob are really accurate and with strong gen-like appearance
PAM 569 is really good, nice and well made (KW with Seagull NON-inverted the best option IMO)
For black lovers PAM 508 (also KW with Seagull NON-inverted IMO)

It is a pity PAM 187 has no recessed sub-dials, because it was really good


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[Bozz]

my vote for KW 569 and 389 with ceramic bezel

 

[Drkitch109]

The latest 305 from ZF is pretty BA

 

[mysterio]

The latest 305 from ZF is pretty BA

The PAM305 V2 is okay, I guess but it doesn't have anything going for it compared to the other 47mm subs, never mind the open caseback which shows the movement flaw. I think that's why it did not fare well with the PAM364 and the PAM569 which almost came out at the same time.

 

[Norrie]

Out of those I'd run with the 243 or 364. There are a lot of great subs though. I also have the 389, 569, 382, 369, 508. I love them all equally. Can't go wrong with any of them despite tiny flaws.

 

[de_jembles]

My first PAM is arriving at the end of the week so I hope the new 382 BRONZO is the best.
Shall keep y'all posted!
With pics

 

[Topper7788]

for what it is worth, I just bought a 364... Buy which ever one you like the best...

 

[Therion666]

Enough talking...:







Now go and place that order