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What's Italian in the front, Russian in the rear and made in Greece?
- Thread starter weargle
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I will sound stupid but why Russian in the back ? What's the movement ?
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No, it's not a stupid question at all. It's powered by a Russian Molnija 3602 movement. Given the Soviet way of "why invent something when we can steal it", it is an exact copy of the Cortebert movement that was used by Rolex in the earliest PAMs. Exact meaning that parts can swap between models of the two brands. As such, I felt it was a appropriate one to have in an homage piece. Molnija/Molniya/?????? is Russian for "lightning".
Keep in mind that PAMs basically started their lives as pocketwatches which were turned on their sides with new faces and had either wires or lugs welded or soldered to the cases to allow for a wrist strap. That's why the seconds are at 9 rather than at 6 that you see on pocketwatches.
More info than you'll ever need on the movements - http://tuxgraphics.org/~guido/molnija-pocket-watch/
Don't thank me, the only tool I used was my checkwrench. [MENTION=19263]black_shark[/MENTION] is the watchsmith who created this.
Something doesn't look quite right with that Molni movement, its obviously not a 3601 (15j) nor does it look like a normal soviet 18j 3602, so is it a later 3603? or a Turkish 02?
I might be wrong but it just looks like a late 3602 to me: no decoration on the ratchet wheel nor anywhere else, rough brushing of plates, no screws on the balance wheel.
Yes, after looking again it appears to be 1980 onwards 3602, the single screw (with extra grooves) on the crown wheel and the increased distance to the stem release/set screw identify it as a later 02. Earlier 15J (aka 3601) and 18J 3602's have twin screws on the crown wheel and the stem/set screw touches the recess for the crown wheel. So i'm guessing parts aren't 100% interchangeable between different 3602's even if 18J, which is worth knowing when sourcing movements for parts. I was curious as I have a couple of 15J's and an earlier 3602 movements ready for transplanting.
Nice build by the way Weargle!!
Heres a visual guide to the various 3602 movements if anyones interested:
http://www.ranfft.de/cgi-bin/bidfun-db.cgi?10&ranfft&&2uswk&Molnia_3602
I have a 3601 on the way from the bay. This 3602 is LOUD - I blame Brezhnev
Top bloke, I bagged another 3601 yesterday of the bay....we're probably bidding against each other, just out of curiosity was it from Bulgaria?